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Certificate of Conformity for VRT

  • 22-02-2017 11:32am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 170 ✭✭


    Hi Guys,
    I'm importing my BMW X5 from the Netherlands to Ireland as I am moving back home, I brought it down to the VRT office and all is well apart from the fact that they are looking for a letter of conformity to verify the CO2 emissions.

    I contacted BMW about it and they want 120 sterling for it. Has anyone been here before and found an alternative way to supply these figures?


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,364 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    They usually either accept the vehicle's registration document with the Co2 figure stated on it or you have to get a main dealer to confirm it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,688 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    120 is not too far from reasonable for a business to prepare an official document assuming that you are a walk in customer who didn't buy from them etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,522 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    I think it's go tighter of late.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 720 ✭✭✭Pops_20


    What year is your X5? Is it pre 2008?

    EDIT: I've been reading up on this lately as I'm importing a car myself.

    As far as I understand, you shouldn't need a certificate of conformity, because the car was previously registered in another country. i.e. its not a brand new car that's never been registered.

    "From 12 September 2016 all new vehicles presented for registration are legally required to have
    an electronic Certificate of Conformity (e-CoC). Where an individual acquires a new vehicle
    and has to register that vehicle in the State an e-CoC is required to be either uploaded to the
    Revenue system OR inputted manually to the Revenue system."

    "New: a vehicle that has not previously been registered or
    recorded in the State or any other jurisdiction"

    http://www.revenue.ie/en/tax/vrt/ecoc-procedures-manual.pdf

    Revenue should have the CO2 figures for a BMW X5 already on their system, presuming one of these has been registered in the stated before.

    Have you checked the CO2 calculator?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 170 ✭✭db330


    bazz26 wrote: »
    They usually either accept the vehicle's registration document with the Co2 figure stated on it or you have to get a main dealer to confirm it.
    Because its dutch it doesn't have it, they have a credit card style reg doc with very little info.
    mickdw wrote: »
    120 is not too far from reasonable for a business to prepare an official document assuming that you are a walk in customer who didn't buy from them etc.
    it seems like alot for someone just to copy and paste a chassis number and then email out the result.
    LIGHTNING wrote: »
    They will take the values if you have the cars manual. I did that for my 205 Gti back in the day. A crusty old Peugeot handbook and I was sorted :)
    Its worth a shot, I might drop in and ask.
    Pops_20 wrote: »
    What year is your X5? Is it pre 2008?

    EDIT: I've been reading up on this lately as I'm importing a car myself.

    As far as I understand, you shouldn't need a certificate of conformity, because the car was previously registered in another country. i.e. its not a brand new car that's never been registered.

    "From 12 September 2016 all new vehicles presented for registration are legally required to have
    an electronic Certificate of Conformity (e-CoC). Where an individual acquires a new vehicle
    and has to register that vehicle in the State an e-CoC is required to be either uploaded to the
    Revenue system OR inputted manually to the Revenue system."

    "New: a vehicle that has not previously been registered or
    recorded in the State or any other jurisdiction"

    http://www.revenue.ie/en/tax/vrt/ecoc-procedures-manual.pdf

    Revenue should have the CO2 figures for a BMW X5 already on their system, presuming one of these has been registered in the stated before.

    Have you checked the CO2 calculator?
    Its 2008, and I know the CO2 emmissions (214 g/km) but its just trying to prove it, But I thought before I brought it that they could just input the chassis number and it would pop up, but apparently not.

    I have contacted the RDW (Dutch Motor Body) and they can send all the info to the VRT office, but the VRT office have to request it directly. So I've mailed them and hopefully they can do it themselves.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,712 ✭✭✭✭R.O.R


    I've never seen an electronic CoC, but the original paper one isn't just a print out on headed paper, it's a proper A5 folded document with a huge amount of information about the car on it. It's like getting a copy of your birth certificate from the Government - official copies are a lot more expensive than just running it through the Xerox.

    It should be supplied with all new cars - think I've one in an Audi downstairs which I was surprised to find under the user manual.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 720 ✭✭✭Pops_20


    db330 wrote: »
    Because its dutch it doesn't have it, they have a credit card style reg doc with very little info.

    it seems like alot for someone just to copy and paste a chassis number and then email out the result.

    Its worth a shot, I might drop in and ask.

    Its 2008, and I know the CO2 emmissions (214 g/km) but its just trying to prove it, But I thought before I brought it that they could just input the chassis number and it would pop up, but apparently not.

    I have contacted the RDW (Dutch Motor Body) and they can send all the info to the VRT office, but the VRT office have to request it directly. So I've mailed them and hopefully they can do it themselves.

    Worse case scenario is they don't request the info or accept what you provide them, and they charge you the highest rate, 36% of the OMSP.

    Your car's emissions are 214 g/km, which falls into the 34% category, so you're only paying an extra 2%.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,069 ✭✭✭✭CiniO


    Pops_20 wrote: »
    Worse case scenario is they don't request the info or accept what you provide them, and they charge you the highest rate, 36% of the OMSP.

    Your car's emissions are 214 g/km, which falls into the 34% category, so you're only paying an extra 2%.

    Probably CO2 is also required to assign correct motortax rate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84,762 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    CiniO wrote: »
    Probably CO2 is also required to assign correct motortax rate.

    Yes once you go over 225 it's €2350 a year compared to €1200 year on 191 to 225.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 720 ✭✭✭Pops_20


    Yes once you go over 225 it's €2350 a year compared to €1200 year on 191 to 225.

    How can they get away with charging nearly double the road tax for an extra 1g/km?? :eek:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,522 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    To discourage the ownership of the highest polluting (in co2 terms anyway) cars.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,397 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Sorry to bump a thread from a while ago.

    Would you need a CoC for a motorbike coming into Ireland from Canada, would anyone know?


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