The economics of sex in relation to farming

20silkcut

Hopefully the anonymity of the discussion board will allow good contributions here. Let's face it a sizeable portion of the wealth of farming in Ireland is manufactured in the pubs , clubs , and bedrooms. Most farmers in this country are farmers only because of an accident of birth or who married who.
I know of a men who passed up on marrying beautiful women only to shack up with a plane Jane with 75 acres.
I know of men who passed up on marrying altogether to keep working on the home farm and avoid splitting it up into a smaller uneconomic unit.
How attractive a partner is a young man or woman with a farm? How strong a hand does it give them in the sexual economy?
Is it still the same as it always was even in a more isolated thinned out rural Ireland. Maybe some of you have interesting stories of the lengths people go to to inherit farms or to marry into farming. Maybe some of you have stories of people who passed up on such opportunities. What influence did sexual economics have on your own farm. What part did it play in why things are the way they are.

lakill Farm

neither of us had land , she was and is a sexy lady


that's me off the hook for forgetting a valentines card

davidk1394

Interesting thread. The was a lad up the road going out with an only daughter of a farmer who had around 400ac. He introduced her as "the girl with 400ac" not by her proper name. Having a farm isn't really a big an issue these days really. But I'm with a girl who's the oldest daughter and they have no sons and a grand herd of cows :P but it doesn't really matter anymore

Limestone Cowboy

Girlfriend comes from a farm alright but she's not going to inherit it. Sad state of affairs if your marrying for land.

_Brian

It was obviously a large part of arranged marriages but since that practice died out in not aware of lads or ladies marrying for land, a few maybe for money but land and money are very different things.

foxy farmer

There was an Australian priest working in a neighbouring parish about 15 yrs ago. One thing he couldn't get over was how closely people in an area were connected through marriage. Cousins , in laws etc. He said that what the Irish needed was a bit of "hybrid vigour".

lakill Farm

foxy farmer wrote: »

There was an Australian priest working in a neighbouring parish about 15 yrs ago. One thing he couldn't get over was how closely people in an area were connected through marriage. Cousins , in laws etc. He said that what the Irish needed was a bit of "hybrid vigour".

I know 3 brothers married to 3 sisters ,

and I think the sister of the 3 lads could also be married to one of the sisters brothers

foxy farmer

lakill Farm wrote: »

I know 3 brothers married to 3 sisters ,

and I think the sister of the 3 lads could also be married to one of the sisters brothers

Yes this type of carry on. And all probably from the same townland too.

lakill Farm

foxy farmer wrote: »

Yes this type of carry on. And all probably from the same townland too.

no 2 different parishes but only about 2.5/3 miles apart

Bullocks

Alot of farmers I know would stick it into a barrel of tar so long as they were getting it somewhere!
If they had sense they would marry someone with a good lineage of social welfare in the genes - way more easygoing and profitable than a farm

foxy farmer

I think the older generation adopted the saying
"Better the devil ya know than the devil ya don't " when it came to selecting a partner. That and large families would be factors in families being interconnected.
There is a fella down the road currently seeing a girl from outside Naples. She's not from farming stock though. At least he went outside the parish! Interested to see how it works out.

kowtow

foxy farmer wrote: »

He said that what the Irish needed was a bit of "hybrid vigour".

Don't know about hybrid vigour but looking at a lot of the teenagers round here they've taken well to the New Zealand system.

All grass and no nuts.

foxy farmer

Just thought of this. Probably what went on in times past.
https://youtu.be/0vN-qz49JiI

Stone Deaf 4evr

foxy farmer wrote: »

Yes this type of carry on. And all probably from the same townland too.

Dunno, if they looked like the Corrs, it'd be hard to blame the 3 brothers.

foxy farmer

Stone Deaf 4evr wrote: »

Dunno, if they looked like the Corrs, it'd be hard to blame the 3 brothers.

The Corrs were nothing much to look at when they were young and before the fame.
Putty and paint make the devil look a saint:)

Stone Deaf 4evr

foxy farmer wrote: »

The Corrs were nothing much to look at when they were young and before the fame.
Putty and paint make the devil look a saint:)

fair fecks to whoevers doing the painting!,

MF290

foxy farmer wrote: »

I think the older generation adopted the saying
"Better the devil ya know than the devil ya don't " when it came to selecting a partner. That and large families would be factors in families being interconnected.
There is a fella down the road currently seeing a girl from outside Naples. She's not from farming stock though. At least he went outside the parish! Interested to see how it works out.

important to know the seed, breed and generation... :rolleyes:

farmerwifelet

Ah but you are leaving out an important aspect. When the farming son goes out with someone not from farming stock and from Dublin at that! the horror!!!

20silkcut

Would it be fair to say that most farms c200 acres or more are as a result of favourable marriages or inherited from childless relatives or bachelor or spinster uncles and aunts. 70/80 years the land commission were breaking up estates etc into sub 100 acre farms. That was the starting point for a lot of farms in this country.

charolais0153

Land commission was all politics too. People getting land from different villages was bull****

20silkcut

charolais0153 wrote: »

Land commission was all politics too. People getting land from different villages was bull****

They effectively decided the size of farms. I know of a woman who became a widow in the 1930's with a 400 acre farm and had it reduced to 90 acres by the land commission.
In fairness in the days before mechanisation anything above that size would have been too much for a one man show anyway.
Since those days do you think circumstance or successful farming has done more to increase farm size.

Attie

Was always told to get one with the track of the wellies on her.
Don't take advice to my cost.

Cattlepen

Get a woman with land and money because the woman without it are just as cheeky!!😂

Waffletraktor

charolais0153 wrote: »

Land commission was all politics too. People getting land from different villages was bull****

The great grandfather was deemed to have had too much land, and then had to re-purchase most of it over the proceeding 50 odd years.

Maybe i'm old fashioned but would rather be with someone you'd happily wake cuddled up beside as many mornings as possible and still find reasons to tear each other clothes off in the heat of the moment.

BorneTobyWilde

lakill Farm wrote: »

neither of us had land , she was and is a sexy lady


that's me off the hook for forgetting a valentines card

If you forgot Valentines Day then go see a doctor. How can one forget a day that was pushed down our throats for 3 weeks beforehand .
Tv, Radio, Billboards,internet, newspapers, geez.

Signpost

I'd say its arguably one of the greatest turn offs one could use for most now days.
Work prob 60/80 + hours a week 52 weeks a year, salary dependant on market conditions, probably live in a rural and some what isolated are etc. Maybe back in the day the 400 acres would pull you a wife but now days have the opposite effect.

Keepgrowing

20silkcut wrote: »

They effectively decided the size of farms. I know of a woman who became a widow in the 1930's with a 400 acre farm and had it reduced to 90 acres by the land commission.
In fairness in the days before mechanisation anything above that size would have been too much for a one man show anyway.
Since those days do you think circumstance or successful farming has done more to increase farm size.

It wasn't the amount of land you had but your politics that decided wheather you had land confiscated or given to you.

All land commission farms in this area are being returned to larger farms gradually in this area with only 2 exceptions.

patsy_mccabe

Around here two large farms in the area were divided up amongst local farmers. Neither farms had successors or any living relatives, as far as I know. You've got to remember that most of this land was taken from the old Irish originally anyway. 'To Hell Or To Connaught' and all that. The landlord in my area owned over 11,000 acres. In a lot of cases it was only going back to those families that lost it generations previously.

20silkcut

Keepgrowing wrote: »

It wasn't the amount of land you had but your politics that decided wheather you had land confiscated or given to you.

All land commission farms in this area are being returned to larger farms gradually in this area with only 2 exceptions.

What do you mean by returned?
Surely you mean they are buying back the land.

Keepgrowing

20silkcut wrote: »

What do you mean by returned?
Surely you mean they are buying back the land.

Bought, of course.

pedigree 6

charolais0153 wrote: »

Land commission was all politics too. People getting land from different villages was bull****

Keepgrowing wrote: »

It wasn't the amount of land you had but your politics that decided wheather you had land confiscated or given to you.

Almost like the situation in Zimbabwe with Robert Mugabe supporters getting the land.:D

Father applied for land here. Small farmer here and all that. Not a hope in getting any.:rolleyes:

Land Commission started up a local political branch (the same party that are in power now) when there was never one before.
Anyone that got no land or land taken joined up.