Ryanair Dublin Airport boarding allowed time

dearbhaildan

I am wondering if anyone knows how long Ryanair' allow for boarding in Dublin Airport? I fly Ryanair every week, but yesterday missed my flight-here's how. The flight was delayed-this was announced on the board when I arrived at the airport (1 hr 30 mins before flight was due to leave). I sat and waited for the gate number to come up. The gate number was displayed At 15:05 . I walked to the gate-Gate 112-at the end of T1 (I was originally sitting on the green/yellow seats across from Starbucks and got there at 15:20, the display board showed 'final Call'-I waited there for staff to check me in-and saw ground crew at the desk, then go through the doors and was then told that the flight was closed. I was told that final call was displayed for 'at least the last 10minutes'. I could see people on the steps embarking but I still wasn't allowed on because 'he has all the numbers done'

My question is:Is 15-20 minutes the norm for Ryanair embarking time or is this what happens when a flight is delayed?

ED E

The "Gate Closes" time on your ticket is when they aim to open the gate. AFAIK as soon as they clear the queue they pretty much go. If they're behind how long theyre boarding for will depend on how full the flight is and if any pax need assistance.

martinsvi

I can't comment on the original question, but I've noticed that DAA mobile app knows which gate your flight will leave long before the screens in the terminal shop/food areas. I think this is a DAA issue for failing to display the departure gates and the correct boarding status in a timely fashion. I had to set up my mother with this app as it was causing her a good deal of anxiety as she's not exactly a sprinter at her age, it takes her time to get to the gate. She never had a problem since

eusap

I generally find in T1 DAA don't show the gate numbers till the last minute to keep people at shops/restaurants. If you walk down to Pier D the screens there show you the gate number. You can tell the time the gate is displayed in the common area because a swarm of people all arrive 5 mins later at the same time (out of breath)

Mebuntu

In my experience "Boarding" starts before the inbound has opened its doors for disembarkation. The Priority crowd go through, down the stairs to a closed door where they wait, followed by the "Others" and a queue forms up the stairs and all the way back to the desks at which point everything stops. Eventually, after the aircraft has emptied out and the CC do their thing before the next flight, the door is opened and actual boarding commences and the remaining passengers are checked through. There is usually a queue at the bottom of each steps which can be slow to move while those already onboard pxxx about stashing bags and then coats and hats in the overheads oblivious to those waiting (often in the rain and cold) outside. I would say that the complete "boarding" process is much longer than 15 - 20 minutes.

On the subject of Gates, the "Wait for Gate" screens seem to display the Gate for your flight an hour prior to Departure time but there is one screen I know of that displays the gates much earlier. Walk past Starbucks and, just to the left of the entry corridor to the 200 gates the screen I mention is there. Some years ago there used to be a similar one on the left in the corridor down to the 300 gates. I don't know if that one is still there.

Be aware that early morning you can't assume that all FR flights go from the 100 gates. I've had several FR early flights go from the 200 gates.

The Rape of Lucretia

martinsvi wrote: »

I can't comment on the original question, but I've noticed that DAA mobile app knows which gate your flight will leave long before the screens in the terminal shop/food areas.

Is this not just deliberate to keep people in the general shopping area and maximise revenue ?

Same on purpose bad service as the likes of Stansted which is even worse forcing you to snake through a shopping centre to get from security to then wait again before they tell you the gate.

There is something very off when the policy is to impede you from getting what you are in the airport to do - get on your plane as quickly and easily as possible.

LiamaDelta

dearbhaildan wrote: »

I waited there for staff to check me in-and saw ground crew at the desk, then go through the doors and was then told that the flight was closed.'

Just curious - what did you wait for?

VG31

eusap wrote: »

I generally find in T1 DAA don't show the gate numbers till the last minute to keep people at shops/restaurants. If you walk down to Pier D the screens there show you the gate number. You can tell the time the gate is displayed in the common area because a swarm of people all arrive 5 mins later at the same time (out of breath)

I'd be wary of going down to Pier D in the morning, as some Ryanair flights use Pier A in the busy morning period. It's not worth having to walk all the way back again! You will mostly likely be fine doing that any other time of the day though.

LXFlyer

dearbhaildan wrote: »

I am wondering if anyone knows how long Ryanair' allow for boarding in Dublin Airport? I fly Ryanair every week, but yesterday missed my flight-here's how. The flight was delayed-this was announced on the board when I arrived at the airport (1 hr 30 mins before flight was due to leave). I sat and waited for the gate number to come up. The gate number was displayed At 15:05 . I walked to the gate-Gate 112-at the end of T1 (I was originally sitting on the green/yellow seats across from Starbucks and got there at 15:20, the display board showed 'final Call'-I waited there for staff to check me in-and saw ground crew at the desk, then go through the doors and was then told that the flight was closed. I was told that final call was displayed for 'at least the last 10minutes'. I could see people on the steps embarking but I still wasn't allowed on because 'he has all the numbers done'

My question is:Is 15-20 minutes the norm for Ryanair embarking time or is this what happens when a flight is delayed?

Are you saying that you started walking to the 1XX gates as soon as the gate was displayed, and that you then for whatever reason didn't go to gate 112 straight away?

Why would you wait anymore time? Once "boarding" or "final call" is displayed you ought to be at or within sight of the gate otherwise you risk not boarding .

I don't understand why you apparently waited at the 1XX area before going to the specific gate?

Noxegon

Mebuntu wrote: »

In my experience "Boarding" starts before the inbound has opened its doors for disembarkation.

Last Monday I took Ryanair from Madrid to Dublin.

"Boarding" started when the inbound aircraft was, according to Flightradar24, nineteen minutes away from landing.

Negative_G

Noxegon wrote: »

Last Monday I took Ryanair from Madrid to Dublin.

"Boarding" started when the inbound aircraft was, according to Flightradar24, nineteen minutes away from landing.

I recently used a Ryanair flight from central Europe to Dublin and experienced the same thing.

The gate staff herded all pax into a small area where well over 50% were left standing.

I questioned how you can possibly board an aircraft while its still 11,000 feet in the air to no avail. The oxygen thief that I spoke with seemed incapable of understanding where I was coming from.

Very frustrating.

Cessna_Pilot

Negative_G wrote: »

I recently used a Ryanair flight from central Europe to Dublin and experienced the same thing.

The gate staff herded all pax into a small area where well over 50% were left standing.

I questioned how you can possibly board an aircraft while its still 11,000 feet in the air to no avail. The oxygen thief that I spoke with seemed incapable of understanding where I was coming from.

Very frustrating.

That was someone just doing their job. Just because they herd everyone into the area, doesn't mean everyone has to follow suit! If people would look out the window they'd know the aircraft wasn't there yet and not going to go without them. No need to be standing so early before the flight is due to board! :rolleyes::D

Fred Swanson

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Negative_G

Cessna_Pilot wrote: »

That was someone just doing their job. Just because they herd everyone into the area, doesn't mean everyone has to follow suit! If people would look out the window they'd know the aircraft wasn't there yet and not going to go without them. No need to be standing so early before the flight is due to board! :rolleyes::D

If I was tasked to carry out a job that I knew was stupid I would at least have the honesty to say so.

You needn't worry. I only moved through the gate when the "final call" announcement was made. I didn't want to run the risk of being refused.

Because if they waited on the incoming aircraft they would not get the boarding done on time and would damage their performance records.

I am aware of the reason why it's done.

Ryanair build enough fat into their flight times so there is often additional time built onto either end of the advertised turnaround time.

It's what you expect from a budget airline. Very frustrating to say the least.

Could be worse I suppose.

LXFlyer

Negative_G wrote: »

If I was tasked to carry out a job that I knew was stupid I would at least have the honesty to say so.

You needn't worry. I only moved through the gate when the "final call" announcement was made. I didn't want to run the risk of being refused.



I am aware of the reason why it's done.

Ryanair build enough fat into their flight times so there is often additional time built onto either end of the advertised turnaround time.

It's what you expect from a budget airline. Very frustrating to say the least.

Could be worse I suppose.

All airlines build recovery time into their schedules to cover for delays on the ground and in the air - not to do it would lead to the entire schedule collapsing. Aer Lingus do it, BA do it, they all do it.

I don't think Ryanair are any different from the other airlines in that regard.

Having block times that incorporate recovery is kind of essential in the airline business.

Negative_G

lxflyer wrote: »

All airlines build recovery time into their schedules to cover for delays on the ground and in the air - not to do it would lead to the entire schedule collapsing. Aer Lingus do it, BA do it, they all do it.

I don't think Ryanair are any different from the other airlines in that regard.

Having block times that incorporate recovery is kind of essential in the airline business.

Ryanair in particular are very different in how they operate with regards to getting passengers on and off aircraft and are in my opinion no way comparable to the likes to BA or EI.

That's part of their business model, I understand that. They do however take the piss more so in this regard than any other carrier I've flown with.

LXFlyer

Negative_G wrote: »

Ryanair in particular are very different in how they operate with regards to getting passengers on and off aircraft and are in my opinion no way comparable to the likes to BA or EI.

That's part of their business model, I understand that. They do however take the piss more so in this regard than any other carrier I've flown with.

I was replying to the part of your post regarding "fat" in their schedules.

Building recovery time into the schedule is common practice across all airlines - you seemed to be suggesting that only Ryanair do that.

Negative_G

lxflyer wrote: »

I was replying to the part of your post regarding "fat" in their schedules.

Building recovery time into the schedule is common practice across all airlines - you seemed to be suggesting that only Ryanair do that.

I commented specifically about Ryaniar since that is the thread subject and outlined my own experience with them.

You know what they say about assumptions.

Locker10a

This is called Green Light Boarding, it means gate staff are to commence boarding at -40 minutes before scheduled departure, unless specifically told not to.
If they fail to do this they are failing to make their targets etc. The green light boarding time varies depending on time of day, for first wave it's often -45 mins.
This is strict instruction from some airlines.
Staff can't really be blamed, they're doing what their told

billie1b

This is for Dublin, other airports have different procedures.

Outbound only
-40 gate staff arrive at gates, do their PA's etc

-40 gate staff proceed into the queue to ask pax if they want their bags tagged, they do this for 10 minutes.

-30 they call the dispatcher to see if they can start pre boarding (cabin crew arrival is -30)

-25 boarding commences, after the first 90 pax are through all remaining bags (big) are tagged

-15 final calls are commenced and gate can close anytime now

-10 loadsheet is handed in and TOB given over

-5 doors are closed and pushback procedures prepared

Turnaround

Everything is the same only for boarding commences within the first 5 minutes of the aircraft arriving on blocks.

-25 a/c arrives

-24 to -20 pre boarding commences

-17 boarding is supposed to commence

-15 final calls

-10 gate closes

-8 loadsheet handed over

-5 a/c locks up and pushback preperation commences

All above times are guidelines and in reality the gate can close from -20 onwards and boarding can commence a few minutes earlier or later etc, this is all dependent on tech problems, weather etc etc.

trellheim

IN regard to gates not being displayed as soon as it is assigned, this is DAA policy ( -1 hour AFAIK ) and not Ryanair. This can leave an unpleasantly small window at peak morning push if you wait at the monitors outside T1 security before deciding where to get you coffee in the morning.

munchkin_utd

trellheim wrote: »

IN regard to gates not being displayed as soon as it is assigned, this is DAA policy ( -1 hour AFAIK ) and not Ryanair. This can leave an unpleasantly small window at peak morning push if you wait at the monitors outside T1 security before deciding where to get you coffee in the morning.

is there an app or service that would notify a passenger of the gate independent from relying on the monitors at the airport ?

when I look at my aer lingus or lufthansa boarding passes for Dublin departures they have a gate on them so its not as if the information isnt out there somewhere.

Fred Swanson

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