PVC Front doors

Benedict

Anyone know, should a PVC front door shudder when you shut it?
I was told all pvc doors shuddered and it was not a problem - is this true?

Anyone got experience of shuddering pvc front doors?

antoinolachtnai

Is it shuddering when it is closed or when it is being closed?

Benedict

It shudders when it is being closed. In other words, when the door hits the frame it causes a shudder.

It does not need to be banged shut, just closing it in an ordinary fashion makes in shudder.

antoinolachtnai

Benedict wrote: »

It shudders when it is being closed. In other words, when the door hits the frame it causes a shudder.

It does not need to be banged shut, just closing it in an ordinary fashion makes in shudder.

It is probably because some part of the lock assembly is touching the sort as it closes. See if you can spot if this is happening. I can usually be adjusted. It does take some patience.

Benedict

No part of the lock touches the door when it is closing - but there is a 1.5mm gap at the top of the door when it is closed - but the installers claim this is normal.

There is no gap at the bottom, just at the top.

They say for a door to be "off" by 1.5mm is too small a gap to worry about.

antoinolachtnai

Benedict wrote: »

No part of the lock touches the door when it is closing - but there is a 1.5mm gap at the top of the door when it is closed - but the installers claim this is normal.

There is no gap at the bottom, just at the top.

They say for a door to be "off" by 1.5mm is too small a gap to worry about.

Can you feel a breeze through the gap on a windy day?

Benedict

If it is really stormy (like yesterday) you can feel a slight trickle of air in one corner. That is the corner that has the 1.5mm gap.

I must admit it is only a slight trickle of air in one corner area.

It looks perfect but surely it shouldn't be "out" even by a small amount?

antoinolachtnai

Have a look about this about adjusting the hinges. Might help. https://dengarden.com/home-improvement/PVC-Door-is-catching-on-frame-when-i-open-and-close-it

Benedict

Thanks Anto....

I suspect there are a lot of dissatisfied customers out there with misbehaving doors and each of them thinks they're the only ones.

antoinolachtnai

Benedict wrote: »

Thanks Anto....

I suspect there are a lot of dissatisfied customers out there with misbehaving doors and each of them thinks they're the only ones.

For sure. But they are basically a great product for a low price and they mostly work very well.

shane b

A lot of the shaking can depend on the frame installed too. Seemingly a lot of door frames now come with metal reinforcing to support the weight of the door. Granted its more common for the composite door market. Previously a lot of companies would buy the door and make their own frame around it without the metal reinforcing hence cheaper

Benedict

Is there any way of measuring the amount of shudder in a door? Any machine for example? For example, if you bought an electric lawnmower and it shook like Mount Vesuvius, you'd be entitled to your money back. But what if the seller said "I think it's fine, I don't think the shudder is excessive at all". What then?

If it was too loud you could check the decibels. Is there some similar standard for checking the shake-levels?

the_pen_turner

Too many variable to go down that route.

All that is wrong here is lack of adjustment or maintenance.

Benedict

I was advised by an engineer that in order to fix the shudder, the door would need to be completely removed and re-hung. (Not the frame, just the door).
But to do this would mean weakening the whole structure because the Palladio were designed to be installed once and left alone.

The thing is, doing that might void the guarantee and the original installers don't want to know. (They are too busy touting for new customers)

parkerpen

Benedict wrote: »

I was advised by an engineer that in order to fix the shudder, the door would need to be completely removed and re-hung. (Not the frame, just the door).
But to do this would mean weakening the whole structure because the Palladio were designed to be installed once and left alone.

The thing is, doing that might void the guarantee and the original installers don't want to know. (They are too busy touting for new customers)

Catch 22 situation then.