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External cracks - survey complete, should we get second opinion?

  • 16-02-2017 11:31am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 491 ✭✭


    Hi, we are about to close on a house we love. It is a timberframe house, 10 years old, and the external walls are constructed of block outer leaf and timber frame
    internal leaf and rendered externally with rough dash plaster finish. We had a strucutural engineer complete a survey and he spotted some cracks on the external walls. His stated opinion was
    These could be partly structural or could be cracks on the rendering.
    Further investigation is required to determine if they are structural or rendering cracks.

    Now, on the phone he basically said he wouldn't bother getting any other survey done, that he would have to be too invasive with the cracks and he's confident they are just in the render. So I assume most surveys use the quoted language to cover themselves.

    The cracks are shown

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    The larger crack he said is a settlement crack because the conservatory and rear of kitchen were constructed after main section of dwelling. It is a blockwork extension.

    The gable end with the noticeable cracks is SW facing, and is basically the first wall the atlantic meets a few hundred metres in from the sea so gets a dose of wind and rain.

    Is there another survey I should consider, or is this the most assurance I can get?


Comments

  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 10,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭BryanF


    OP you've come on the internet instead of getting a second opinion, so I'll give you the stock answer

    'We can't give structural advice'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,605 ✭✭✭gctest50


    robocode wrote: »

    ......The larger crack he said is a settlement crack because the ......

    A crack very near a water drain thingy can be a bad sign



    Get an opinion from someone suitably qualified ( in real-life)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 491 ✭✭robocode


    It's not that I'm asking for structural advice. We have had a qualified engineer assess it. My question is, is there any point getting someone else to assess it, or will another report most likely say the same thing, i.e. a definitive answer could not be provided without getting into the wall/ground?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,886 ✭✭✭✭Calahonda52


    robocode wrote: »
    It's not that I'm asking for structural advice. We have had a qualified engineer assess it. My question is, is there any point getting someone else to assess it, or will another report most likely say the same thing, i.e. a definitive answer could not be provided without getting into the wall/ground?

    Spot On. and wont happen pre purchase

    “I can’t pay my staff or mortgage with instagram likes”.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 491 ✭✭robocode


    Spot On. and wont happen pre purchase

    That's what I was thinking. The seller isn't exactly going to let me send a crew of lads in chipping away at the render to see how deep the cracks go.


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,340 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    robocode wrote: »
    It's not that I'm asking for structural advice. We have had a qualified engineer assess it. My question is, is there any point getting someone else to assess it, or will another report most likely say the same thing, i.e. a definitive answer could not be provided without getting into the wall/ground?

    You cannot carry out invasive or opening up works until after you buy, so another report will state the same thing.


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