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Jobseekers benefit and fis?

  • 13-02-2017 10:07am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28


    I am trying to ring the local welfare office which isn't very local so can't just pop in yet! I was made redundant which I tried my very best to avoid but it is what it is now, p45 only arrived yesterday,there's nothing part time around and childcare is an issue,the deal in this house with 3 children, 1 baby and a preschooler and another going to school,is I have the fis of 177 per week which co habitant gets,that pays electricity,food for whole house and heat etc etc, my part time job just about made it ok,that's gone, the fis is being reviewed at the moment as one year is up,I'm struggling,school looking for more money and preschool needs small bits,and baby is growing out of clothes, what I need to know is, I have stamps but am I not entitled to claim them for a while as he is getting fis?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    kerrellie wrote: »
    I am trying to ring the local welfare office which isn't very local so can't just pop in yet! I was made redundant which I tried my very best to avoid but it is what it is now, p45 only arrived yesterday,there's nothing part time around and childcare is an issue,the deal in this house with 3 children, 1 baby and a preschooler and another going to school,is I have the fis of 177 per week which co habitant gets,that pays electricity,food for whole house and heat etc etc, my part time job just about made it ok,that's gone, the fis is being reviewed at the moment as one year is up,I'm struggling,school looking for more money and preschool needs small bits,and baby is growing out of clothes, what I need to know is, I have stamps but am I not entitled to claim them for a while as he is getting fis?

    Your JSA will count as income and may put you above the threshold.
    Do the maths and see.
    Best to contact the fis office directly with questions relating to it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,606 ✭✭✭Ginger83


    Hi, sorry to hear of your unfortunate situation. Best to chat to CWO but i'd also advise contacting SVP, they are extremely helpful at times like this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28 kerrellie


    Your JSA will count as income and may put you above the threshold.
    Do the maths and see.
    Best to contact the fis office directly with questions relating to it.


    So I am entitled to claim it? It'd be JSB, I was working part time over 3 years, the fis isn't my concern really,I have no money coming to me,fis comes through on Thursday and I have to beg for it by Saturday and don't usually get the full amount


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,490 ✭✭✭amtc


    You're fine if benefit. Not means tested. In fact your cohabitation doesn’t even enter into it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28 kerrellie


    amtc wrote: »
    You're fine if benefit. Not means tested. In fact your cohabitation doesn’t even enter into it

    Ok thanks,I can at least head in now,they're always too busy for answering phones but it's 12 miles one way with my kids so if I'd totally be going in for nothing I'd be depressed altogether, thanks again to all for the help


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,505 ✭✭✭infogiver


    kerrellie wrote: »
    Ok thanks,I can at least head in now,they're always too busy for answering phones but it's 12 miles one way with my kids so if I'd totally be going in for nothing I'd be depressed altogether, thanks again to all for the help
    To get JSB you have to be looking for and available for full time work, and your not.
    If your FIS is being reviewed and you've lost your job and only have your partners wages, then you FIS will increase.
    Have you informed FIS that you've lost your job?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28 kerrellie


    infogiver wrote: »
    To get JSB you have to be looking for and available for full time work, and your not.
    If your FIS is being reviewed and you've lost your job and only have your partners wages, then you FIS will increase.
    Have you informed FIS that you've lost your job?


    If an employer would let me work full-time around cohabitants hours then I would but this is 2017, and they tell you work what they say or go wherever been there done that so its not like I won't work.at all. Yes they were told,I think it's not finished a year until next month,its in his name so he gets it so I don't know much about dates,a form was sent out and returned and I was made officially redundant the first week of January so they know


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28 kerrellie


    infogiver wrote: »
    To get JSB you have to be looking for and available for full time work, and your not.
    If your FIS is being reviewed and you've lost your job and only have your partners wages, then you FIS will increase.
    Have you informed FIS that you've lost your job?


    And sorry,the critical part is I do not have his wages, I started cohabiting as was facing homelessness due to rents etc, I only have the fis,his wages are his money so I do not have it that's my problem,3 kids and bills on 170


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,606 ✭✭✭Ginger83


    kerrellie wrote: »
    And sorry,the critical part is I do not have his wages, I started cohabiting as was facing homelessness due to rents etc, I only have the fis,his wages are his money so I do not have it that's my problem,3 kids and bills on 170

    It will be considered household income though regardless of whose wages it is.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,505 ✭✭✭infogiver


    kerrellie wrote: »
    And sorry,the critical part is I do not have his wages, I started cohabiting as was facing homelessness due to rents etc, I only have the fis,his wages are his money so I do not have it that's my problem,3 kids and bills on 170

    If your living with him and you have 3 kids and he wont pay his share then that's not SW problem to sort out. He cant say and neither can you that "his wages are his money".
    If your partner is expecting you to pay for everything out of €170 per week then that is domestic abuse and you need to get help from Womens Aid.
    If hes getting FIS based on the fact that you have wages, and now you don't have the wages, and your FIS is currently under review then, and you've told FIS that you've lost your job, then your FIS should go up.
    If you do claim JSB then FIS will factor in your JSB and the FIS you get will reduce dramatically (as its under review) and even stop.
    SW will put you under pressure very soon to look for full time work.
    You need to go to your local CIC and get some serious advice and help.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,432 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    Thanks infogiver, I was just going to post the same thing.

    OP, what you're experiencing from your partner is domestic abuse. He may not be hitting you, but withholding money from you is equally abusive.

    Now I know that he agreed to let you move in because you had nowhere else to go. But by letting you move in, he agreed to cohabitate with you, and given the welfare system in this country it means that the wages either of you own are wages for the family. You should not have to beg for money from him.

    Women's Aid is the place to go.


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