Permission to plant trees

80sDiesel

Do you need permission to plant a tree in a field? I am guessing not but at what number would you need to?

Farmer

Assuming it's your field..

http://www.agriculture.gov.ie/forestservice/forestryandthelaw/


Afforestation
Under the European Communities (Forest Consent and Assessment) Regulations 2010, the approval of the Minister is required for all afforestation projects where the area involved is greater than 0.10 hectares (approximately 0.25 acres).

80sDiesel

Great. Thanks for that. Guessing that is why the Glas scheme is also limited to max .09

Then again. How many trees make a forest?

Quick question. Are these beech trees?

pedigree 6

I'm a renegade.:D







To Hell with that if I have to ask permission if I can plant a tree. Ffs.

An bhfuil cead agam dul go dtì an leithirìs.

greysides

Ped 6, why did you chose Eucalyptus?

What species?


Sycamore or Maple in the last picture?

pedigree 6

I'm not sure of the eucalyptus species.
I got a few plants from D plant who had a stand in the ploughing match 6 years ago.
But they're flying it. Even look to be growing through this winter when the deciduous ones can't due to leaf loss.
There's a good few people down here after sowing plots with them for firewood.

The last trees are sycamore grown from seeds from a tree on the farm.

Trees need good solar panels and the bigger the solar panel and longer lasting the faster the growth.

greysides

I noticed Eucalyptus in the garden seemed to grow over the winter too. Great trees although they look a little alien amongst our native ones. Nice white bark on those ones.
Had to cut some down after 20 years as they were falling foul of strong winds from a non-prevailing direction and falling on a neighbours fencing. They yielded wood that could be burnt the same year. Burns very quickly though.

Sycamore is not a favourite of mine as I've seen too many with black spots in the leaves over the summer which spoils the appearance for me. I like Maple though and you get autumn colour from those. A species you only see in roadside planting here is the Field Maple, also gives some autumn colour in a shrub/smaller tree. I would like to try some of them some time.

I think you've Poplar in a picture too. I like the idea of Aspen, a relation. Again autumn colour and a rustling noise in the wind to listen to.

With the amount of Ash in the hedgerows there's going to be lots of planting opportunities if Ash Die back becomes widespread. Or 'when' it does.

I think the photo competition for April/May is goping to have to be 'Great Trees'.

Username John

greysides wrote: »

I noticed Eucalyptus in the garden seemed to grow over the winter too. Great trees although they look a little alien amongst our native ones. Nice white bark on those ones.
Had to cut some down after 20 years as they were falling foul of strong winds from a non-prevailing direction and falling on a neighbours fencing. They yielded wood that could be burnt the same year. Burns very quickly though.

Sycamore is not a favourite of mine as I've seen too many with black spots in the leaves over the summer which spoils the appearance for me. I like Maple though and you get autumn colour from those. A species you only see in roadside planting here is the Field Maple, also gives some autumn colour in a shrub/smaller tree. I would like to try some of them some time.

I think you've Poplar in a picture too. I like the idea of Aspen, a relation. Again autumn colour and a rustling noise in the wind to listen to.

With the amount of Ash in the hedgerows there's going to be lots of planting opportunities if Ash Die back becomes widespread. Or 'when' it does.

I think the photo competition for April/May is goping to have to be 'Great Trees'.

Is it a forgone conclusion that ash die-back will kill all ash tees - like Dutch elm disease?

I have been planting maybe a few ash trees every year for a while. Just from saplings that I have spotted around the place and transplant to where I want em... I transplanted 8 of em during the week...

I thought die back hadn't gotten enough of a foot hold?

pedigree 6

Username John wrote: »

Is it a forgone conclusion that ash die-back will kill all ash tees - like Dutch elm disease?

I have been planting maybe a few ash trees every year for a while. Just from saplings that I have spotted around the place and transplant to where I want em... I transplanted 8 of em during the week...

I thought die back hadn't gotten enough of a foot hold?

It's not going to kill them all.
Some ash trees are seemingly resistant.

All you can do is wait and see what happens.

Edit: You should vary your tree species a bit. Plant a few different species to spread the risk so to speak.

Username John

pedigree 6 wrote: »

It's not going to kill them all.
Some ash trees are seemingly resistant.

All you can do is wait and see what happens.

Edit: You should vary your tree species a bit. Plant a few different species to spread the risk so to speak.

Ok, good - we'll continue as we are... we might get with away with it sure...

Thanks...

greysides

I think I read on the Forestry Sub-Forum that one of the problems with the 'slash and burn' approach to an infected stand is that you won't identify the resistant trees as you'll have cut them down too.

I have been planting maybe a few ash trees every year for a while.

Hopefully with your approach you're planting a genetically diverse bunch. If any tree can make a come back it would be Ash with it's prolific seeding and growth.

If it does get around the hedgerows around here are going to be pretty bare. But, it is an opportunity for another species to take over. I wonder what it might be?


Birch can seed well and is tolerant of soils and situations... Sycamore too, but not a huge number of either of them in hedgerows to start with.....Alder? Furze? Sally? Hawthorn? Holly? Hazel?

Username John

greysides wrote: »

Birch can seed well and is tolerant of soils and situations... Sycamore too, but not a huge number of either of them in hedgerows to start with.....Alder? Furze? Sally? Hawthorn? Holly? Hazel?

Sure hopefully they'll survive - I have always liked ash more than any other tree...
Put in a few sycamore and a couple of oak, but I am always searching for ash plants to put in places...

I hope it's not replaced with hazel - we have loads of it there, I think it's a pure pest species

80sDiesel

pedigree 6 wrote: »

To Hell with that if I have to ask permission if I can plant a tree. Ffs.

An bhfuil cead agam dul go dtì an leithirìs.

Very well but i am looking at planting over 2000 trees on 23 acres.

pedigree 6

80sDiesel wrote: »

Very well but i am looking at planting over 2000 trees on 23 acres.

You're not going to do it yourself though?

Forestry companies will usually sort it out for you.

80sDiesel

pedigree 6 wrote: »

You're not going to do it yourself though?

Forestry companies will usually sort it out for you.

The whole point is to do it myself.

pedigree 6

80sDiesel wrote: »

The whole point is to do it myself.

Maybe the opening post should have been I am thinking of planting 23 acres with trees.
What rules and regulations do I have to abide by?
What species would be best suited to this site?
What companies supply the best plants?
What drainage and roadways and what grants will cover this?