Guidance for full licence holder accompanying learner

yayatobe

My son is learning to drive and he has done lessons but now doingsome driving in my car. I am accompanying him on these drives. Is there any information on the different manouvours that are done during the test etc. Dont want to be giving him advice that is based on bad habbits that i have! Ideally a print off or something like that that bullet points the main points of diffectent parts of driving....

Dravokivich

He should have a log book which outlines what each lesson covers.

Something to keep in mind is if he is checking his blind spot and indicating as required each time he starts off. When he gets in the car it'll be worthwhile to get him to assess the position of the mirrors for himself, after he has adjusted the seat.

The main manoeuvres are:

Reverse around a left turn
--The important thing here is observation. He'll need to look out for whatever can come towards him from the front, behind and the direction he is turning into. He'll also need to watch for pedestrians. It's not just someone else on the road he is looking for. If he lowers the left mirror to see where the kerb is, it's important he sets it up again when he has finished.

Turn About:
--Commonly known as a 3 point turn. The number of movements doesn't matter. This is again going to require observation, especially when it comes to reversing. It's generally recommended to put the handbrake up when switching between first and reverse.

Hill Start:
--The car should not roll back when he takes off. You can have the handbrake on, to bring the clutch to biting point, then release the handbrake as the car is ready to go.

Kerbs:
--Don't hit them. If you do it's a fail. If it's possible get him to do the manoeuvre again.

Road Markings:
--Don't go into hatch markings (even if you think you are being nice to left others from behind you through as there's not enough space in a filter lane).
--Don't cut corners
--If there's no stop line by a set of traffic lights, you must not go pass the traffic lights (when red). If you do it's a fail. The examiner will want to see each light that's relevant to you. (EG: if you are in the Tallaght area there is a set of lights from Springfield onto the N81, heading back into Tallaght, that's like this)
--I believe it'll be the same for a Stop sign, if there's no road marking for the stop, he'll need to stop at the sign. I'm unsure of the impact of not doing this.
--Another thing to watch out for is the shaded area cyclists may have available to them at traffic lights. He should not stop in there.

aujopimur

Let the insructor give the advice, you'll just mess things up for him.

Dravokivich

aujopimur wrote: »

Let the insructor give the advice, you'll just mess things up for him.

While that is true an instructor will also be interested in feedback from a "Sponsor" which seems to be the role the OP is taking, by accompanying his son. His son should use it as an opportunity to challenge what he perceives against the input of his father. Who was simply asking what he should look out for.

AlekSmart

Dravokivich wrote: »

While that is true an instructor will also be interested in feedback from a "Sponsor" which seems to be the role the OP is taking, by accompanying his son. His son should use it as an opportunity to challenge what he perceives against the input of his father. Who was simply asking what he should look out for.

Perhaps a little O/T...but has anybody got opinions on the huge increase in Vehicles displaying BOTH N and L plates together....I was behind an Opel Astra earlier which had significantly reduced vision out the back window,due to N,L and Baby on Board Plates all apparently Supersized....

I'm wondering is there a misinterpretation of the rules going on ...?

neonsofa

AlekSmart wrote: »

Perhaps a little O/T...but has anybody got opinions on the huge increase in Vehicles displaying BOTH N and L plates together....I was behind an Opel Astra earlier which had significantly reduced vision out the back window,due to N,L and Baby on Board Plates all apparently Supersized....

I'm wondering is there a misinterpretation of the rules going on ...?

I thought it was people sharing a car. For example two sons using their dads car. The N is for the son who just passed. The L is for the new learner. Rather than taking down and putting up the signs they just keep them all up. I do see it an awful lot though.

YUAND

Advise on things you feel sure of such as mirrors and blindspot monitoring and good observation but I'd leave the rest to the instructor. Maybe talk to the instructor for suggestions on how to advise as well.