Rogue Traders

jameorahiely

https://mobile.twitter.com/Kraandrijver/status/826459004821975040?p=v


The Dutch police tweeted this earlier

Translated roughly it means " Irish Handymen active in the area, intimidatimg people and asking too much money for the work. Do not drown with them in the sea"

By chance this afternoon I had "Irish Handymen" call to my door here this afternoon. I'm still waiting on some sort of communication from the Gardai to let me know and warn me about them being in the area.


What sort of reputation are these "Irish Handymen" giving us and what can be done about it?

Potential-Monke

Pretty sure they meant travellers...

punisher5112

Potential-Monke wrote: »

Pretty sure they meant travellers...

Give that man a can of coke...

Potential-Monke

punisher5112 wrote: »

Give that man a can of coke...

And a Snickers?

demanufactured

I wonder would the handymen be looking to Rob you at all at all.

punisher5112

Due to all the PC rubbish and racist etc etc yada yada yada one has to be careful in their choice of words.

Mr. FoggPatches

punisher5112 wrote: »

Give that man a can of coke...

Made of copper.

Ferrari3600

Hmmm! Would these Irish handymen by any chance be members of a protected minority group?

matchthis

Sure they would have had to travel to get their.

Ferrari3600

Mr. FoggPatches wrote: »

Made of copper.

Ya junkeees bastid ya.

mfceiling

Potential-Monke wrote: »

Pretty sure they meant travellers...

Careful boss...

Mr. FoggPatches

Ferrari3600 wrote: »

Hmmm! Would these Irish handymen by any chance be members of a protected minority group?

The bilderberg group?

riffmongous

punisher5112 wrote: »

Due to all the PC rubbish and racist etc etc yada yada yada one has to be careful in their choice of words.

Yeah thats the reason alright, cause the ordinary Dutch person would know all about Travellers and Irish people

Larbre34

Mobile Irish Handymen are an ethnic group and assert their cultural identity.

jameorahiely

Should the Gardai be tweeting "there may be a handyman or handymen in your area" to give a heads up?

punisher5112

riffmongous wrote: »

Yeah thats the reason alright, cause the ordinary Dutch person would know all about Travellers and Irish people

Hey smarty meant on here.

They would just be translated and also coming from official government body they would not be using watch out for thieving scum yada yada.

jameorahiely

bear1 wrote: »

Maybe I'm missing it, but where in that tweet is there anything to suggest "irish" being the nationality?

You're missing it!


This word "Ierse" means Irish



Ierse klusjesmannen = Irish handymen

bear1

jameorahiely wrote: »

You're missing it!


This word "Ierse" means Irish



Ierse klusjesmannen = Irish handymen

Yep deleted the post after I noticed it.

The_Valeyard

punisher5112 wrote: »

Give that man a can of coke...

I remember that school tour well.

Grandeeod

Before the lock, let's remind ourselves of the accepted Irish rogue traders.

Bankers, developers, estate agents, engineers, builders, etc. etc.

They did far more damage than a bunch of travellers scamming people.

biko

Not only in Holland
http://www.thelocal.se/20150422/elderly-swedes-scared-by-british-rogue-tradesmen

Police are investigating a group of Irish handymen believed to be preying on pensioners in Örebro in central Sweden and potentially under pressure from "slave" ringmasters themselves.

punisher5112

The_Valeyard wrote: »

I remember that school tour well.

Excellent concept get kids hooked on sugar and it worked I was a sugar addicted junky till recently and by god was it some shock coming off.

Remember you could even fill your beaker or bottles also.

punisher5112

Grandeeod wrote: »

Before the lock, let's remind ourselves of the accepted Irish rogue traders.

Bankers, developers, estate agents, engineers, builders, etc. etc.

They did far more damage than a bunch of travellers scamming people.

In some ways yes they were bad but I will say one thing they didn't cause or threaten harm or bully or actually steal personal belongings and so on.

Ferrari3600

Mr. FoggPatches wrote: »

The bilderberg group?

Not quite what I had in mind...though there are plenty of dodgy bastids at the top of the pyramid also.

Summer wind

A shower of bastards Ted.

punisher5112

Summer wind wrote: »

A shower of bastards Ted.

No cowboys bunch of cowboys....

Grandeeod

punisher5112 wrote: »

In some ways yes they were bad but I will say one thing they didn't cause or threaten harm or bully or actually steal personal belongings and so on.

Even a form of threatening and bullying from the corporate world can cause harm. I've no wish to derail the thread, but wanted to add some neglected perspective as we seem to moan and rant about this minority and rarely examine the damage done by the behaviour of the white collar types.

punisher5112

Grandeeod wrote: »

Even a form of threatening and bullying from the corporate world can cause harm. I've no wish to derail the thread, but wanted to add some neglected perspective as we seem to moan and rant about this minority and rarely examine the damage done by the behaviour of the white collar types.

I hear you. But it seems to be OK to let continue. Which of course is wrong.

Summer wind

punisher5112 wrote: »

No cowboys bunch of cowboys....

They'll shaft you every time:D

jameorahiely

biko wrote: »

Not only in Holland
http://www.thelocal.se/20150422/elderly-swedes-scared-by-british-rogue-tradesmen

The slavery reports are very worring. Wasn't there a case in England a while ago where slaves were freed?

punisher5112

jameorahiely wrote: »

The slavery reports are very worring. Wasn't there a case in England a while ago where slaves were freed?

Yes they kept them like dogs.

griffin100

On Channel 4 at the minute, The Modern British Slave Trade, which has a distinctly Irish feel to it.

washman3

Grandeeod wrote: »

Before the lock, let's remind ourselves of the accepted Irish rogue traders.

Bankers, developers, estate agents, engineers, builders, etc. etc.

They did far more damage than a bunch of travellers scamming people.

And of course those politicians with no bank accounts, winning the odd few bob on the horses...;)

kittensmittens

griffin100 wrote: »

On Channel 4 at the minute, The Modern British Slave Trade, which has a distinctly Irish feel to it.

Just watching it now myself.....frightening stuff

pickarooney

Don't drown with them in the sea
There's such a thing as too literal, even in Dutch.

It means don't trust them or get snared by them.

randy hickey

Wilt u uw oprit geteerd Missus?

Would you like your driveway tarred Missus?

whisky_galore

Grandeeod wrote: »

Before the lock, let's remind ourselves of the accepted Irish rogue traders.

Bankers, developers, estate agents, engineers, builders, etc. etc.

They did far more damage than a bunch of travellers scamming people.

High class and low class scammers...they're all scammers, what's the difference?

topper75

pickarooney wrote: »

Don't drown with them in the sea
There's such a thing as too literal, even in Dutch.

It means don't trust them or get snared by them.

I used to speak a little Dutch. The literal translation of "Ga niet met ze in zee!" would be more like "Don't go with them into the sea".

You are correct with the sentiment though - don't trust them or get snared by them.

Wheety

Ah, sure isn't it their culture? We'd be racist to try and stop them.

punisher5112

Wheety wrote: »

Ah, sure isn't it their culture? We'd be racist to try and stop them.

Funny thing is you would be. They have their status recognized.

irishgeo

no idea why CAB dont just sit on rathkeale at Christmas.

mynamejeff

Grandeeod wrote: »

Before the lock, let's remind ourselves of the accepted Irish rogue traders.

Bankers, developers, estate agents, engineers, builders, etc. etc.

They did far more damage than a bunch of travellers scamming people.

you forgot to mention the many many idiots who though it was a good idea to take on a massive mortgage in the belief that the boom would last for ever.

the bankers took advantage but stupidity is no excuse

Boom_Bap

mynamejeff wrote: »

you forgot to mention the many many idiots who though it was a good idea to take on a massive mortgage in the belief that the boom would last for ever.

the bankers took advantage but stupidity is no excuse

I will last forever.

topper75

irishgeo wrote: »

no idea why CAB dont just sit on rathkeale at Christmas.

They are on it man.

Give them a chance.

http://www.limerickleader.ie/news/home/227755/cash-and-documents-seized-during-cab-raids-in-limerick.html

washman3

irishgeo wrote: »

no idea why CAB dont just sit on rathkeale at Christmas.

And do what exactly..??
Sit and admire their €100,000 sportscars parked outside their €500,000 empty houses while they live in €50,000 mobile homes.
CAB is a busted flush at this stage, criminals have found many ways around it.

mynamejeff

washman3 wrote: »

And do what exactly..??
Sit and admire their €100,000 sportscars parked outside their €500,000 empty houses while they live in €50,000 mobile homes.
CAB is a busted flush at this stage, criminals have found many ways around it.

https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16298499_10155062983106600_5299528892208736153_n.jpg?oh=7bcd40d3adf0e31feb319c029db1d871&oe=59442641


seem to be doing ok given the restrictions and resources they work with

punisher5112

We need legislation and someone in power to actually put it through also a maximum security prison to house the thieving backstards that are out there among other serious criminals.

DEFTLEFTHAND

washman3 wrote: »

And do what exactly..??
Sit and admire their €100,000 sportscars parked outside their €500,000 empty houses while they live in €50,000 mobile homes.
CAB is a busted flush at this stage, criminals have found many ways around it.

It seems to work better on the common O.C gangs.

The traveller gangs don't seem to fall foul of it with the same frequency. Maybe's that's down to their cuteness or else CAB are reluctant to go after these people.

It could create a few headaches in the Bureau. Accusations could start flying around, and tension could be whipped up by Victim Groups and 'rights' campaigners.

More trouble than it's worth.