Finding out about criminal record?

Snugglebunnies

Is it possible to find out if someone has a criminal record in Ireland?

I know I'm the UK there's "clares law". Is there anything like that here?

I'm not looking for legal advice btw.

Fred Swanson

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Snugglebunnies

Even if they're a potential threat? This is not something that is affecting me personally or anything, I just came accross the clares law during some research and was interested. That law seems like a good idea dont you think?

endacl

Snugglebunnies wrote: »

That law seems like a good idea dont you think?

No. I don't. It reads like something dreamt up on the letters page of the Daily Mail.

Snugglebunnies

Seems like it's done some good in the UK, but I'm no expert!

So when does one have to reveal a criminal record? Garda vetting ? For visas? To social services?

I'm studying psychology not law so I've no idea about this stuff. I'm just starting a project about domestic violence.

Samuel T. Cogley

Knowledge of people's criminal records is, anecdotally, counter productive in protecting the public. If your college/university has any one with a Criminology background or ideally a Guard coming in for a lecture, try and attend if you can. The guards will generally be very accommodating to student bodies that request a lecture.

Discodog

Snugglebunnies wrote: »

Seems like it's done some good in the UK, but I'm no expert!

So when does one have to reveal a criminal record? Garda vetting ? For visas? To social services?

I'm studying psychology not law so I've no idea about this stuff. I'm just starting a project about domestic violence.

Well a Paediatrician was attacked because the "mob" confused it with Paedophile.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2000/aug/30/childprotection.society

I think that the accepted principle that naming just drives offenders underground.

Snugglebunnies

Discodog wrote:

Well a Paediatrician was attacked because the "mob" confused it with Paedophile.

Ha that just came about from uneducated people going on the rampage though. I don't think people should be named publicly but privately in certain circumstances. I suppose good and bad could come from it though.

Discodog

Snugglebunnies wrote: »

Ha that just came about from uneducated people going on the rampage though. I don't think people should be named publicly but privately in certain circumstances. I suppose good and bad could come from it though.

Lots of those around. What would be the good ?

Snugglebunnies

Discodog wrote:

Lots of those around. What would be the good ?

True, but if you actually had to go through an official process to apply for the information which may directly affect you I don't think it would cause mobs? No doubt that sort of behaviour would have happened anyway.

Samuel T. Cogley

Snugglebunnies wrote: »

True, but if you actually had to go through an official process to apply for the information which may directly affect you I don't think it would cause mobs? No doubt that sort of behaviour would have happened anyway.

Eh? How do you do this. That lad looks a bit peedy I'll fill out a form, oh actually turns out he's just into grannies? Or would the grannies information not be included because it wasn't asked for?

Sorry to be an ass here but might I suggest you haven't really thought this through. Perhaps do that, do some rudimentary research and then post again. Many of us actually like helping people with their homework, but there has to be a certain minimum level of participation.

Given you're studying psychology, perhaps there is something to the idea, posited by a senior enough guard that telling the local population of Ballygobackwards Johnny the blow-in was previously convicted for rape and the furor that creates, may in fact be a factor in reoffending.

cheekojuls

I think this law is a good idea

Criminals have it too easy in this country

endacl

Snugglebunnies wrote: »

Ha that just came about from uneducated people going on the rampage though. I don't think people should be named publicly but privately in certain circumstances. I suppose good and bad could come from it though.

And once they're named privately, how do you propose keeping that information from becoming public? A private individual has no professional obligation in respect of the accused.

Discodog

And once they are named they run & no longer sign in with the Guards. So they are now without monitoring & no one knows where they are - recipe for re offending.

Snugglebunnies

Libertarian Kant wrote:

Sorry to be an ass here but might I suggest you haven't really thought this through. Perhaps do that, do some rudimentary research and then post again. Many of us actually like helping people with their homework, but there has to be a certain minimum level of participation.

Libertarian Kant wrote:

Sorry to be an ass here but might I suggest you haven't really thought this through. Perhaps do that, do some rudimentary research and then post again. Many of us actually like helping people with their homework, but there has to be a certain minimum level of participation.

Well my research isn't on this topic in particular, it's on the psychological effects of domestic violence. This was just something I came across while reading, hence why I was discussing it here instead of during hardline research into it myself.

Samuel T. Cogley

Snugglebunnies wrote: »

Well my research isn't on this topic in particular, it's on the psychological effects of domestic violence. This was just something I came across while reading, hence why I was discussing it here instead of during hardline research into it myself.

Rotate it to domestic violence. General principle - someone undergoing anger management - more or less likely to relapse under pressure of public shame?

Honest question as I'm certainly no psychology scholar.

I certainly wish you the best in your studies. Intelligent questions asked here can yield some amazing insight. It's happen to me on two or three occasions - not because that's the amount of times people have been willing to contribute, but that's about my level of intelligent questions!