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liquid life aid for dehydrated lambs?

  • 19-01-2017 4:28pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 192 ✭✭


    As above.is it OK to give for lambs?my label is gone from d bottle.looking online and only gives values for piglets and calves or adult sheep.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭ganmo


    Are ya talking about a few weeks old lamb?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 192 ✭✭Inchilad


    ganmo wrote:
    Are ya talking about a few weeks old lamb?

    Couple days old.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,497 ✭✭✭rangler1


    Inchilad wrote: »
    Couple days old.

    Is it for scour, never saw it recommended for baby lambs, probably could give it at the same dilution as calves and give 50ml to them but very hard to cure scour in lambs


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 192 ✭✭Inchilad


    rangler1 wrote:
    Is it for scour, never saw it recommended for baby lambs, probably could give it at the same dilution as calves and give 50ml to them but very hard to cure scour in lambs


    Just dehydrated.cant get it to suck as it's too weak.was going to just tube a bit of electrolytes to get strength up.open to other suggestions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭ganmo


    Inchilad wrote: »
    Just dehydrated.cant get it to suck as it's too weak.was going to just tube a bit of electrolytes to get strength up.open to other suggestions.

    I think I'd be tubing it with milk or colostrum


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    ganmo wrote: »
    I think I'd be tubing it with milk or colostrum

    Tube it with electrolyte solution with glucose.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 192 ✭✭Inchilad


    Tube it with electrolyte solution with glucose.

    Thanks.am I right in thinking that you shouldn't tube with milk/colostrum after 24 hours.gave it 50 mls of lifeline earlier.checked it while ago and put it on the ewe for a bit.will tube it again later.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 227 ✭✭Crow Pigeon and Pheasant


    What about the ewe and lamb reviver stuff?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,401 ✭✭✭arctictree


    Inchilad wrote: »
    Just dehydrated.cant get it to suck as it's too weak.was going to just tube a bit of electrolytes to get strength up.open to other suggestions.

    30ml of glucose solution straight into the abdomen if it's very weak ie can't stand. If it's up and about, stomach tube it.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 9,046 Mod ✭✭✭✭greysides


    From the datasheet:
    Liquid Life-Aid is indicated in the reversal of the process of dehydration and electrolyte loss associated with scours in
    calves and pigs whether due to nutritional, bacterial or viral causes. It is also indicated as an aid in recovery from
    pregnancy toxaemia and reversal of hypoglycaemia in sheep.

    It doesn't mention treating scour in lambs but I'd use it as per Rangler's post.

    Full sheet here.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 192 ✭✭Inchilad


    greysides wrote:
    From the datasheet: Liquid Life-Aid is indicated in the reversal of the process of dehydration and electrolyte loss associated with scours in calves and pigs whether due to nutritional, bacterial or viral causes. It is also indicated as an aid in recovery from pregnancy toxaemia and reversal of hypoglycaemia in sheep.


    Thanks.outside in the field with a week.doing grand.gave it 10 to 1 mix.water to life aid.50 mls every 4 hours.seemed to do the trick.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 9,046 Mod ✭✭✭✭greysides


    Inchilad wrote: »
    Thanks.outside in the field with a week.doing grand.gave it 10 to 1 mix.water to life aid.50 mls every 4 hours.seemed to do the trick.


    Try to be exact, that's 15% off, nearly 1/8th wrong. The ratio's are 'that' important. Too strong and you can worsen the scour (osmotic equalisation), too weak and it won't work.
    It's a different story is ewes where it is serving a different purpose.
    Liquid-Life-Aid is intended for oral administration only after dilution with 11.5 times its own volume of water.

    The aim of argument, or of discussion, should not be victory, but progress. Joseph Joubert

    The ultimate purpose of debate is not to produce consensus. It's to promote critical thinking.

    Adam Grant



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 192 ✭✭Inchilad


    greysides wrote:
    Try to be exact, that's 15% off, nearly 1/8th wrong. The ratio's are 'that' important. Too strong and you can worsen the scour (osmotic equalisation), too weak and it won't work. It's a different story is ewes where it is serving a different purpose.


    Fair enough.wasnt for scour just dehydration so was mainly for fluid uptake.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭ganmo


    Inchilad wrote: »
    Fair enough.wasnt for scour just dehydration so was mainly for fluid uptake.

    what greysides is saying is that the mix ratio is important. if you get it wrong you can actually take water out of lamb rather than putting it in


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