English pipe to irish fitting

mcneil

I have chrome pipe i need to install but when i try to push it into my 3/4 elbow, it wont slip into the wee groove inside. The ring and nut can go on but the pipe wont slip in like the irish pipe. Any tips on what i can do

aujopimur

Get a 22mm fitting.

cruiser202006

Most hardwares do a 22mm x3/4" elbow(315) And joiner(310)

Tom44

cruiser202006 wrote: »

Most hardwares do a 22mm x3/4" elbow(315) And joiner(310)

No they don't.

But you can get a 22mm English metric elbow and use an Irish 19mm compression ring to carry on in Irish imperial (bit of a contradiction) pipe.

cruiser202006

Have some in the van! All hardwares local to me do them! If they try give u a 22mm x 3/4" Acorn elbow don't take it as chrome will not grip the same in them as copper does

TPM

Tom44 wrote: »

No they don't.

But you can get a 22mm English metric elbow and use an Irish 19mm compression ring to carry on in Irish imperial (bit of a contradiction) pipe.

the english is 22mm, but the irish 3/4" is 21mm

when using irish pipe in metric fittings be careful when you are tightening them, they can move alot in the fitting and compress out of line and can be hard sealed if this happens

K.Flyer

If you need to do as you describe I would suggest using a 22mm x 3/4" 417 elbow.
This is 22mm compression with a 3/4" female thread on the other end.
Then get a 3/4" 311, this is 3/4" compression and 3/4" male thread at the other end.
Using flax or gas tape to create the seal screw the two pieces together and you will be left with a tidy compression elbow connector with 22mm on one end 3/4" on the other.

mcneil

Think of it like this! I have an irish 3/4 pipe coming up the wall with 3/4 elbow on it, with pipes already coming out the wall. The wife wants a free standing bath upstairs(masonry walls) with chrome pipe coming out of the wal connected to the bath. The way this should be piped im thinking is get english chrome elbows, connect to the irish pipe with irish ring where the last elbow was. Then connect to the chrome pipe out the wall, another english elbow up into the bath with a flexi pipe because last plumber left Pipes are 8inch centred years previous.

my3cents

mcneil wrote: »

Think of it like this! I have an irish 3/4 pipe coming up the wall with 3/4 elbow on it, with pipes already coming out the wall. The wife wants a free standing bath upstairs(masonry walls) with chrome pipe coming out of the wal connected to the bath. The way this should be piped im thinking is get english chrome elbows, connect to the irish pipe with irish ring where the last elbow was. Then connect to the chrome pipe out the wall, another english elbow up into the bath with a flexi pipe because last plumber left Pipes are 8inch centred years previous.

I should work that way, but I'm not sure why you would not do it all in irish fittings?

mcneil

my3cents wrote: »

I should work that way, but I'm not sure why you would not do it all in irish fittings?

Can one get irish chrome pipe. plumber i know gave me uk fittings and chrome pipe

my3cents

mcneil wrote: »

Can one get irish chrome pipe. plumber i know gave me uk fittings and chrome pipe

Maybe not. I thought I had some 3/4" chrome pipe but turns out to be 22mm and all the chrome fittings I have are also all 22mm.

So back to plan A. Only problem I see is that you are stuck with a brass compression nut at the start?

K.Flyer

If you have pipes coming out of the wall is the wall finished with tiles or still bare plasterboard?
Or is the elbow in the wall cavity exposed?

mcneil

K.Flyer wrote: »

If you have pipes coming out of the wall is the wall finished with tiles or still bare plasterboard?
Or is the elbow in the wall cavity exposed?

There's 2 3/4 pipes coming up the old stone wall about 3 inch's with Irish elbows on end of them. I can track the wall out for more room to work with the pipe. Its just plastered for now but wife wants tiles or the PVC panelling on them.

K.Flyer

Can you can get in at the 90' elbows to remove them?
If you can, you could follow my earlier suggestion which will give you a secure change from the 3/4" in the wall to 22mm coming out of the wall.
I have edited it based on your last post.

K.Flyer wrote: »

If you need to do as you describe I would suggest using a 3/4" x 3/4"F.I. 317 elbow.
This is 3/4" compression with a 3/4" female thread on the other end.
This would go on the pipe in the wall after removing the existing elbow.
Then get a 22mm x 3/4" M.I. 611 (411 is sambra fyffe code) this is straight connection with 22mm compression one end and 3/4" male thread at the other end (might be available in chrome).
Using flax or gas tape to create the seal, screw the two pieces together and you will be left with a tidy compression elbow connector with 22mm on one end 3/4" on the other.

This will allow you to bring the 22mm chrome pipe straight out of the wall.

mcneil

K.Flyer wrote: »

Can you can get in at the 90' elbows to remove them?
If you can, you could follow my earlier suggestion which will give you a secure change from the 3/4" in the wall to 22mm coming out of the wall.
I have edited it based on your last post.



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I'm thinking of maybe extending it up the wall a little bd adding a 3/4 straight connection then the elbow. If I where to do this, this is how I'd tackle it. A new straight onto the existing 3/4 nut and ring that's on the pipe. The straight onto small piece of new 3/4 onto a new chrome elbow that has an Irish ring on one end. The chrome pipe will come out the wall and onto another 3/4 chrome elbow into more 3/4 pipe continuing on to the bath taps??