Firemax or Ketel tyres, anybody heard of them?

jcb1986

Hey all, looked at BMW 3 series today and it came with brand new Firemax tyres in the rear and Ketel tyres in the front, possibly these Ketel were a type of firemax because I can't find anything about them online. He put new 19" alloys on the car to make it easier to sell as the old 16" wheels on it were in rough nick. Pic below. Justwondering are these tyre brands safe

ddire33

Think the fact nothing comes up when you google them tells you how good they are, if you buy better budget changing them, plus if the rims are not a reasonable brand they are liability as well.

easygoing39

Firemax are made in China,even Google's never heard of Ketel tyres!! Ditchfinders if you ask me,the 3 series being RWD and having a bit of poke should be fun in the wet on these!

Cee-Jay-Cee

If you cant find anything on google about them then you can safely assume theyre the cheapest tyres he could find in order to be able to say the car has new tyres. If your interested in buying the car then budget for a set of new tyres also.

colm_mcm

They will undoubtedly be crap. Come back in an hour and this thread will be 7
pages long.
16 inch tyres are relatively cheap even with a decent brand.

bazz26

Typical replica alloy wheel package deal that comes with cheap no name tyres. I think you know the answer to this one.

easygoing39

And at least 1 special "expert" will tell you their great tyres and theres no need to buy a trusted brand-name tyre!!

Eric Cartman

Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »

If you cant find anything on google about them then you can safely assume theyre the cheapest tyres he could find in order to be able to say the car has new tyres. If your interested in buying the car then budget for a set of new tyres also.

I'd be quite worried about what else on that car was done on the cheap considering the tyres.

If it was a micra i'd understand, but that's not a budget car, it shouldn't be treated as one.

colm_mcm

I'd imagine the wheels are Shiite replicas too.

Eric Cartman

colm_mcm wrote: »

I'd imagine the wheels are Shiite replicas too.

screams of a 'wheel and tyre package' job from a budget website.

jcb1986

Eric Cartman wrote: »

screams of a 'wheel and tyre package' job from a budget website.[/QUOTE

Thanks, ive asked for a receipt of purchase on these and asked are they OEM or another brand. He said he got them for £570 in Newry off a friend who runs a wheel place, I must ask the name of it. I dont mind as long as they are considered a decent replica brand online and I budget a few hundred for some better tyres. Hopefully I get some clarification.

In yer experience are most replicas of poor quality?

Toyotafanboi

jcb1986 wrote: »

In yer experience are most replicas of poor quality?

Yeah.

Those tyres will be pants.

jcb1986

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

Yeah.

Those tyres will be pants.

Cheers, yeah I agree the tyres will be shockers, I more meant the wheels, are replica alloys generally ****e?

colm_mcm

What year is the car, price?

Eric Cartman

jcb1986 wrote: »

Eric Cartman wrote: »

screams of a 'wheel and tyre package' job from a budget website.[/QUOTE

Thanks, ive asked for a receipt of purchase on these and asked are they OEM or another brand. He said he got them for £570 in Newry off a friend who runs a wheel place, I must ask the name of it. I dont mind as long as they are considered a decent replica brand online and I budget a few hundred for some better tyres. Hopefully I get some clarification.

In yer experience are most replicas of poor quality?

£570 for 4 wheels and tyres in 19's , you would get 4 decent tyres, fitting/balancing and lunch for that money , no way are they of decent quality

jcb1986

colm_mcm wrote: »

What year is the car, price?

2012, €14300-15k , 60-70k miles, Irih reg, its a decent price but if I buy ill prob end up buying different wheels and have to sell them, a lot of hassle I couldn't be bothered with

jcb1986

Eric Cartman wrote: »

£570 for 4 wheels and tyres in 19's , you would get 4 decent tyres, fitting/balancing and lunch for that money , no way are they of decent quality

Lol I thought the same, but when happy with the car I naively convince myself "ah sure he knew your man he might have got a great deal on these" but need to bring myself back down to earth on a purchase this big

colm_mcm

He has a load of old vans for sale. Is he the original owner? There's only 1 owner on the book.

bazz26

jcb1986 wrote: »

Eric Cartman wrote: »

screams of a 'wheel and tyre package' job from a budget website.[/QUOTE

Thanks, ive asked for a receipt of purchase on these and asked are they OEM or another brand. He said he got them for £570 in Newry off a friend who runs a wheel place, I must ask the name of it. I dont mind as long as they are considered a decent replica brand online and I budget a few hundred for some better tyres. Hopefully I get some clarification.

In yer experience are most replicas of poor quality?

You won't buy OEM 19" rims and decent brand tyres for anywhere near 1k not to mind £600. Seems to be very common for premium branded cars either coming from the North or on sale there to be fitted with large replica wheels. Probably to appeal to the more younger buyer.

jcb1986

colm_mcm wrote: »

He has a load of old vans for sale. Is he the original owner? There's only 1 owner on the book.

One owner in England then he put 8000 miles on it himself. Said he put the new alloys on it on advice from a friend to make it easier to sell, he text back there to say they are replicas alright and will let me know when he finds the receipt. He did seem pretty honest in fairness, now I just need to figure out are they complete dogshlt of replicas or not, judging from this thread they are are.

He can put the originals wheels back on but they didn't look to be in the best of shape but could be better off with them. I'll have to look at them again

colm_mcm

I'd be wary of the mileage. Check that if you're any way serious about buying.

jcb1986

colm_mcm wrote: »

I'd be wary of the mileage. Check that if you're any way serious about buying.

Thanks. I may sound naive again but is clocking a BMW F30 an easy thing to get done? The VRT cert had 59000 miles approx on it in March 2016.

Is bringing the car to a BMW dealer the only place to get the mileage checredit or can a vehicle assessor do it? He seemed very open to me having someone take a look at it.

colm_mcm

Is there a service history?

Clocking is usually done after it's bought in the uk and before the NCT.

All cars are easy to clock.

Foxhole Norman

jcb1986 wrote: »

Thanks. I may sound naive again but is clocking a BMW F30 an easy thing to get done? The VRT cert had 59000 miles approx on it in March 2016.

Is bringing the car to a BMW dealer the only place to get the mileage checredit or can a vehicle assessor do it? He seemed very open to me having someone take a look at it.

Ask him for the English Reg it previously had. Throw the Reg in here: https://www.check-mot.service.gov.uk/ It'll tell you the mileage at recent MOT's to give you an idea.

Would the the front tyres be Keter by any chance? They are Chinese.

My OH recently went out to get new tyres for the front of her car. She wanted something in the medium price range, definitely not the cheapest on offer. She came back from the garage with these Keters which the seller highly recommended.

After a month's driving on them in various conditions, I can say that they'll be getting changed for something better before January is out.

Special Circumstances

Foxhole Norman wrote: »

Ask him for the English Reg it previously had. Throw the Reg in here: https://www.check-mot.service.gov.uk/ It'll tell you the mileage at recent MOT's to give you an idea.

If it's a nordie car that won't work. Different mot setup there compared to mainland.

fancy pigeon

Eric Cartman wrote: »

I'd be quite worried about what else on that car was done on the cheap considering the tyres.

If it was a micra i'd understand, but that's not a budget car, it shouldn't be treated as one.

Is it me or does that disc need replacing too...?

jcb1986

Foxhole Norman wrote: »

Ask him for the English Reg it previously had. Throw the Reg in here: https://www.check-mot.service.gov.uk/ It'll tell you the mileage at recent MOT's to give you an idea.

Thanks, checks out fine, 56000 miles early Dec 2015 in the MOT, bought from an Irish dealer

fancy pigeon wrote: »

Is it me or does that disc need replacing too...?

hope not, will get car checked out if I'm interested, know anyone good?

Special Circumstances wrote: »

If it's a nordie car that won't work. Different mot setup there compared to mainland.

English car

patdrog

bit late replying re, firemax tyres however,i have 235/60/16 fm 316 tyres on my jeep 4x4 for 6 months now and rate tyres 100/100 .before that I had bridgestone dulers so far firemax knock sparks off dulers at half the cost, bought 250euro fitted for 4.

stimpson

Look on the bright side - you can always use em for doughnuts.

The Rape of Lucretia

easygoing39 wrote: »

Firemax are made in China,even Google's never heard of Ketel tyres!! Ditchfinders if you ask me,the 3 series being RWD and having a bit of poke should be fun in the wet on these!

Never heard of Ketel myself OP, but you should be fine if the tread is good on them. Drive them until worn and then get anything good value of your choice, so certainly nothing to worry about in your decision on the car.

(There is no such thing as a 'ditchfinder' by the way, thats just a snob term encouraged by the big advertising budget brands to sell you overpriced tyres)

listermint

Only took him 2 months to get here.

But he made it all the same.



Fair play




Lol

coolbeans

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

easygoing39 wrote: »

Firemax are made in China,even Google's never heard of Ketel tyres!! Ditchfinders if you ask me,the 3 series being RWD and having a bit of poke should be fun in the wet on these!

Never heard of Ketel myself OP, but you should be fine if the tread is good on them. Drive them until worn and then get anything good value of your choice, so certainly nothing to worry about in your decision on the car.

(There is no such thing as a 'ditchfinder' by the way, thats just a snob term encouraged by the big advertising budget brands to sell you overpriced tyres)

Tyre bull****ter alert.

dmc17

patdrog wrote: »

bit late replying re, firemax tyres however,i have 235/60/16 fm 316 tyres on my jeep 4x4 for 6 months now and rate tyres 100/100 .before that I had bridgestone dulers so far firemax knock sparks off dulers at half the cost, bought 250euro fitted for 4.

Must be a fairly hard compound if there's sparks coming off them

ednwireland

arent those tyre too narrow for the rims (sorry pet hate)