Flight to JFK taking an extra 80 mins ?

Tzardine

Hi Folks,

I am booked on EI0105 EIDW-JFK in November. I got an email from Aerlingus this morning to say that there was a change in my schedule.

Basically everything is the same, except for the arrival time into JFK. It now says 1440 instead of 1320 as originally booked. So an extra 80 mins.

Anybody have any ideas why ?

Jayop

Different plane?

Different flight path?

Landing spot hard to get that day and they have to circle waiting for a slot?

sdanseo

Bumped from a 332 to 752? Or else they've just added more "buffer" time to all T/A routes maybe.

MoeJay

Which date in November?

I'm guessing it's something to do with daylight savings time...?

Tzardine

MoeJay wrote: »

Which date in November?

4th.

Daylight savings is not until the 5th apparently. (as per Mr. Google)

Jayop

MoeJay wrote: »

Which date in November?

I'm guessing it's something to do with daylight savings time...?

The clocks go back in America a week after Ireland so quite possible if the flight out is before the 5th of November.

Good thinking Tonto!!

Jayop

Tzardine wrote: »

4th.

Daylight savings is not until the 5th apparently. (as per Mr. Google)

Yeah but our clocks go back on the 29th of October, a week before the USA so that makes good sense.

Tzardine

Jayop wrote: »

Yeah but our clocks go back on the 29th of October, a week before the USA so that makes good sense.

Fair play, I guess thats the reason so.

I had nightmares of stopping in Shannon or something lol.

Jayop

Tzardine wrote: »

Fair play, I guess thats the reason so.

I had nightmares of stopping in Shannon or something lol.

It's just unusual that they didn't take that into account in the first place, so while it's a probably reason it may not be the actual one.

LXFlyer

That happens quite a bit to be honest across the industry.

I've had it several times.

That schedule would tie back with the one used earlier this winter schedule also.

tippilot

Daylight savings time would explain a difference of one hour only. Is the schedule padded by a further 20 mins to allow for stronger jet streams in winter?

Seems unusual that such a mistake would slip through. Nothing insignificant about 1hr 20mins less in NYC. Grounds for an upgrade imo;)

martinsvi

if it was to do with daylight savings, the clock going back one hour would mean that you arrive at 12XX not 14XX

most likely they are just putting in extra time "just-in-case" so they don't get slapped if delays do happen. Flight already is scheduled for 7 hours and 50 minutes. Typically it's there in just 7 hours.. It's not going to take any slower routes or change to any slower aircraft types. And it's not going to circle around NY if it arrives early. The only reasonable explanation I can think of - from my own experience - sometimes the plane arrives but there are no free gates at JFK as someone else got delayed. So you litteraly sit there on the tarmac waiting for the gate to free up. This is a really nerve-wrecking experience if you have a connection to catch. Adding more time to the flight allows booking systems to offer more sensible and secure connections, I'd say that's all there is into it.

EI105, from my experience, is AerLingus money maker, it's nearly always full, packed with connecting passengers.. they're not going to mess with it

LXFlyer

I'm sorry but you're wrong.

It IS to do with DST.

Currently the winter schedule is in operation with both locations on winter time.

EI105 departs Dublin at 10:50 and arrives JFK at 13:40 local.

For the week that Ireland is on winter time and the US is still on summer time it will depart Dublin at 10:50 but arrive JFK at 14:40 local.

It is still scheduled to take 7 hours 50 minutes.

The summer schedule allows 7 hours 30 minutes.

Look here:
http://info.flightmapper.net/flight/Aer_Lingus_EI_105

At the top you can see the first week in November when the two time zones were out of sync.

As I posted above - it was a mistake. In my experience the airlines can and do make this mistake regularly enough when clocks change on different dates - it shouldn't happen, but schedulers are human too!

martinsvi

lxflyer wrote: »

I'm sorry but you're wrong.



For the week that Ireland is on winter time and the US is still on summer time it will depart Dublin at 10:50 but arrive JFK at 14:40 local.

RRIIIIIGHT, sorry, I didn't read the thread right.. I thought it was suggested, that the change to winter time has already happened when flight arrives. If NY still remains in Summer time, it makes perfect sense. So as far as OP is concerned, flight will still take the same amount of time as it typically does for the time of year

LXFlyer

martinsvi wrote: »

RRIIIIIGHT, sorry, I didn't read the thread right.. I thought it was suggested, that the change to winter time has already happened when flight arrives. If NY still remains in Summer time, it makes perfect sense. So as far as OP is concerned, flight will still take the same amount of time as it typically does for the time of year

Correct.

As I say it was human error.

Just forgot that in the US that winter time comes in a week later than in Europe.

faoiarvok

Would have imagined scheduling would be done on UTC and a computer would convert to local times.

Not doubting that explanation, just seems weird. Could also be human error on the part of programmers rather than schedulers