Employer paying cash in hand and firing all employees.

dartboardio

Thanks for the advice.

Wanderer78

oh this could get interesting!

judeboy101

If you are ok with getting paid cash in hand then you should be ok with getting sacked on a whim. "if you lie with dogs, expect fleas"

blue note

I wouldn't expect back out of it for yourself, but an anonymous tip to revenue would be fine in my opinion. Very unfair of him to operate like that for the workers, competitors and as a general tax dodger.

El_Duderino 09

judeboy101 wrote:

If you are ok with getting paid cash in hand then you should be ok with getting sacked on a whim. "if you lie with dogs, expect fleas"

That's very harsh. People who get paid cash in hand usually accept it because they're vulnerable to begin with. The law is there to protect people and vulnerable people are most in need of protection.

The law also needs to tackle the hidden economy and protect people who pay tax from those who don't.

I don't know any powerful people who work cash in hand.

OP, what do you actually want? Do you want your job back or do you want to be paid properly for the time you worked? In the UK the Revenue (HMRC) is in charge of making sure people get minimum wage.

Max Powers

Shouldn't this be in a more suitable forum?
Surely, there is a legal, employment or tax forum.?

donegal.

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

That's very harsh. People who get paid cash in hand usually accept it because they're vulnerable to begin with.

People who get paid cash in hand usually accept it because the want to keep claiming the dole , rent allowance etc

judeboy101

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

That's very harsh. People who get paid cash in hand usually accept it because they're vulnerable to begin with. The law is there to protect people and vulnerable people are most in need of protection.

The law also needs to tackle the hidden economy and protect people who pay tax from those who don't.

I don't know any powerful people who work cash in hand.

OP, what do you actually want? Do you want your job back or do you want to be paid properly for the time you worked? In the UK the Revenue (HMRC) is in charge of making sure people get minimum wage.

the person who pulls the trigger is as guilty as the person who orders the shot. OP had no problem defrauding taxpayer like his former boss.

Harry Palmr

Get in touch with revenue.ie - this is exactly the sort of off the books "old school" behaviour we don't need and it means employees have no social welfare stamps which their work should be contributing to.

http://www.revenue.ie/en/business/shadow-economy/reporting.html

El_Duderino 09

donegal. wrote:

People who get paid cash in hand usually accept it because the want to keep claiming the dole , rent allowance etc

judeboy101 wrote:

the person who pulls the trigger is as guilty as the person who orders the shot. OP had no problem defrauding taxpayer like his former boss.

Jaysus the milk of human kindness flows in this thread.

Sobe people do claim the dole and work cash in hand and that's not great. They're hardly a huge problem but they are the easiest target. Those oeole don't have the means to defend themselves or hire legal representation, they don't have a union or lobby group. They're not making anything better but I'd argue they're not in a position to make things much better.

Surely the first thing to do is ask what the OP actually wants before we tell the OP what a dreadful person they are.

Stealthfins

judeboy101 wrote:

If you are ok with getting paid cash in hand then you should be ok with getting sacked on a whim. "if you lie with dogs, expect fleas"

Or if you fly with the crow's you'll get shot lol

dartboardio

I've come to a conclusion thanks everyone.

dartboardio

Don't want anyone that shouldnt see this see it, so thanks

dartboardio

All I can do is move on and seek other employment with a better established business that does things properly and thank god that I'm not risking that again anytime soon..

Mrs OBumble

If youve been there for less than a year, you're still on probation and so can be let go for no reason anyway.

And if you've been there for less than 13 weeks, you can be let go with no notice.


By all means report them to revenue, but your employment rights haven't been broken.

Bicycle

Unless you have been employed for 50 weeks or more you can be dismissed fairly at any time provided you are not being dismissed on one of the grounds for discrimination e.g. gender, race, family status, pregnancy etc. The employer may claim that you were working on a trial basis and it didn't work out.

Regarding payment in cash - are you SURE that no PRSI was paid? That nothing was declared to revenue?

If no tax is being paid, then you can contact the revenue commissioners. Or contact NERA - The National Employment Rights Association.

Carlos Orange

dartboardio wrote: »

Was just wondering if there was any reports that could be made, complaints..etc as this was a genuinely wrong thing to do as agreed by all the other employees.
I'm not claiming dole, rent allowance etc, I'm in college and on a grant aswell as whatever extra wages I get from working.

I suppose you could (and possibly should). Depends on what you hope to gain from it. It isn't likely to result in getting your job back. Assuming you haven't declared your income when applying for the grant I guess there is some infinitesimal chance that might be impacted.

ct5amr2ig1nfhp

So it's ok that some people avoid paying tax? Including the employer.

At what point is it not ok? At what salary is it not ok?

I see tax dodging going on all around me. In my opinion, it's not OK.

We are a family with one income and we are regularly struggling to pay our bills. We pay our tax and get next to nothing back for what we pay out in taxes. Would you consider us "vulnerable"?

The OP should report his previous employer to revenue.

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Jaysus the milk of human kindness flows in this thread.

Sobe people do claim the dole and work cash in hand and that's not great. They're hardly a huge problem but they are the easiest target. Those oeole don't have the means to defend themselves or hire legal representation, they don't have a union or lobby group. They're not making anything better but I'd argue they're not in a position to make things much better.

Surely the first thing to do is ask what the OP actually wants before we tell the OP what a dreadful person they are.

Wanderer78

Jesus Billions Bomb wrote: »

So it's ok that some people avoid paying tax? Including the employer.

At what point is it not ok? At what salary is it not ok?

I see tax dodging going on all around me. In my opinion, it's not OK.

We are a family with one income and we are regularly struggling to pay our bills. We pay our tax and get next to nothing back for what we pay out in taxes. Would you consider us "vulnerable"?

The OP should report his previous employer to revenue.

sadly tax dodging is a necessity for some, as other posters have said, some of these people are very vulnerable. i personally beleive most hard working people are being screwed by our tax laws, and some major employers are evading and avoiding taxes, putting more pressure on these hard working people, but i guess thats all for debate for a completely different thread.

El_Duderino 09

Jesus Billions Bomb wrote:

So it's ok that some people avoid paying tax? Including the employer.

Well I also said this so I don't know why you're asking me that:

El_Duderino 09 wrote:

The law also needs to tackle the hidden economy and protect people who pay tax from those who don't.

Jesus Billions Bomb wrote:

At what point is it not ok? At what salary is it not ok?

That would be an interesting question except I never said it was ok at any salary

Jesus Billions Bomb wrote:

We are a family with one income and we are regularly struggling to pay our bills. We pay our tax and get next to nothing back for what we pay out in taxes. Would you consider us "vulnerable"?

Maybe. The more employment opportunities and greater earning potential you have, and the more legal recourse and access you have, the less vulnerable you are. The more desperate you are the more vulnerable you are. You'd need to fill in the blanks because I'd just be guessing.

Luckycharms_74

donegal. wrote: »

People who get paid cash in hand usually accept it because the want to keep claiming the dole , rent allowance etc

Nail on the head ^^^^^

I know where the employment is and AFAIK the staff were being paid Cash in hand and signing on the dole.
The employer is happy he not paying the taxes , PRSI etc.

Sully

Moved to Work & Jobs forum

davo10

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Get in touch with revenue.ie - this is exactly the sort of off the books "old school" behaviour we don't need and it means employees have no social welfare stamps which their work should be contributing to.

http://www.revenue.ie/en/business/shadow-economy/reporting.html

You do realise that the employee is liable for any tax/levies due on wages earned, not the employer? The employer is only liable for employer's PRSI (10.75%) If the op contacts Revenue, he/she will be informed that they must pay tax/levies due on all their cash income.

Nody

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