Foreigner without degree moving to Ireland. Bad idea?

logiteka

Hi there guys, have been living in Ireland before, but then went home but home is no more so "home"... And I kind of got tired trying to fit in with "my own people"... So think going back to Ireland where I felt good. Especially as my family is in Ireland and brother already has an Irish passport and Irish fiance. 
While i was living in Ireland at my last work I was an order picker with Aldi's... But  back home i worked as a operations director with international parcel company for about a year, afterwards for almost 3 years as a managing director with a group of companies doing local distribution and next day delivery and then worked with a international logistics company as a logistics business development officer (one of the highest positions within company) building their 3PL and distribution network from zero to a fully working operation. 
So seems back home I was doing pretty well, found my way and every employer was highly satisfied with me and I always get good employment offer and have excellent contacts in logistics everyone I worked with know that im excellent at my senior positions and always exceed target and kpi's... But... the bad mood...
Anyways, im currently doing a level 7 diploma with UK school online which is 120 credits towards MBA, and the plan to go for and MBA. Until then - im paperless (not to count diplomas and certs)
What im looking to is get managers position with 3PL company, or maybe a freight forwarding company or similar where I would fit in and do well... Don't really want to go back to the lowest stage of operative or so... But heard that there are no Jobs in Ireland at the mo.. Especially for the foreigners.. 

Oh.. damn.. whole life story there.. Anyways cut it. Question is - do i have any chance at all in finding a job there in a month or so within transport and logistics sector on a higher position? Maybe someone works there and knows what Irish employers are looking for? Appreciated for any insights..

An Ri rua

logiteka wrote: »

Hi there guys, have been living in Ireland before, but then went home but home is no more so "home"... And I kind of got tired trying to fit in with "my own people"... So think going back to Ireland where I felt good. Especially as my family is in Ireland and brother already has an Irish passport and Irish fiance. 
While i was living in Ireland at my last work I was an order picker with Aldi's... But  back home i worked as a operations director with international parcel company for about a year, afterwards for almost 3 years as a managing director with a group of companies doing local distribution and next day delivery and then worked with a international logistics company as a logistics business development officer (one of the highest positions within company) building their 3PL and distribution network from zero to a fully working operation. 
So seems back home I was doing pretty well, found my way and every employer was highly satisfied with me and I always get good employment offer and have excellent contacts in logistics everyone I worked with know that im excellent at my senior positions and always exceed target and kpi's... But... the bad mood...
Anyways, im currently doing a level 7 diploma with UK school online which is 120 credits towards MBA, and the plan to go for and MBA. Until then - im paperless (not to count diplomas and certs)
What im looking to is get managers position with 3PL company, or maybe a freight forwarding company or similar where I would fit in and do well... Don't really want to go back to the lowest stage of operative or so... But heard that there are no Jobs in Ireland at the mo.. Especially for the foreigners.. 

Oh.. damn.. whole life story there.. Anyways cut it. Question is - do i have any chance at all in finding a job there in a month or so within transport and logistics sector on a higher position? Maybe someone works there and knows what Irish employers are looking for? Appreciated for any insights..

The highlighted BOLD part? Hardly true. There's hundreds of thousands of 'foreigners' working away in Ireland. Many in good jobs. From operative to good private jobs to even civil servants.
I know little about the logistics sector but I can easily see how your references and application would stack up as they all interconnect and work internationally. So why not apply to the bigger companies who have exposure in your former region also? Or Irish specialist freight forwarders who liaise with your region?
If you have good experience in EU tax/customs paperwork, sure of course you are employable. I would send your list of skills (as a skills map i.e. what they need and what you have) plus your work history (who you worked for, key responsibilities and KPIs) to the top 50 companies. Don't wait for jobs to be advertised. get one yourself.
Don't let negative people put you off. If you know a sector, let them know about you.

Best of luck.

the_pen_turner

On the ground experience is worth a lot more than a bit of paper.
Sounds like you have a lot of experience

pilly

I would say you have an excellent chance with your experience. You can always start applying before you come over and see if you get any takers?

JoeyPeeps

What country are you from and why are u deciding to return?
Gone are the days when you can just land here and take the job off a native born. Attitudes are changing with that carry on. Do you need a visa?

Squall Leonhart

JoeyPeeps wrote: »

What country are you from and why are u deciding to return?
Gone are the days when you can just land here and take the job off a native born. Attitudes are changing with that carry on. Do you need a visa?

Are you for real??

"with that carry on"! If somebody can turn up here in Ireland and contribute in a positive way by bringing desired skills and experience and are willing to integrate to Irish society as the OP clearly seems happy to do, then they're most welcome.

JoeyPeeps

If every European national in the UK is going to take that attitude come brexit then we won't be able to accommodate everyone now will we?

jester77

JoeyPeeps wrote: »

If every European national in the UK is going to take that attitude come brexit then we won't be able to accommodate everyone now will we?

Luckily Ireland is not the only country left in the EU

The_Conductor

Squall Leonhart wrote: »

Are you for real??

"with that carry on"! If somebody can turn up here in Ireland and contribute in a positive way by bringing desired skills and experience and are willing to integrate to Irish society as the OP clearly seems happy to do, then they're most welcome.

They are most welcome- if they are an EU citizen.
If they are not an EU citizen- they may not be entitled to work here.
Its not as cut and dry as you make out.

Nessel

If you're entitled to work here, why not? I'm not from Ireland either and I've got a good job myself and I don't have a Bachelor or Masters degree. It was difficult in the beginning, but even if you do get started in a company that might not be fully what you want it will give you Irish experience which is something I believe employers like to see. Stay positive and work towards your goals.
That's what I'd say, and it's what I did too.

JustAThought

There are 220,000 people not working at the moment - Ireland has one of the hightest qualified young workforces in the world, a level seven is barely past our lowest acceptable schoolleavers educational standard here and not even having something to state that is even less attractive. It is certainly not MBA level, and despite what colleges may say or want you believe, there is little employer appetite for online courses here in lieu of full time university degrees and masters which are the norm. On top of all that Ireland/Dublin is an extremely expensive place to rent and if you want a house or shared appartment close to the city you will be paying top dollar for rental - if you can secure one.

All in all, given your need to find something senior within a month it might be more prudent to apply from where you are & try and progress interest and interviews from your home base rather than squander your savings on a 3 week frenzied trip and have to return with potentially nothing.

If you need a visa forget it in terms of travelling here and looking.

logiteka

Thanks to all for supporting reply. Could not login to boards.ie from abroad to respond. But in the first day of being in Ireland have got 3 calls for interview so far. So it doesnt seem that situation is as bad as some draw it. So happy for Ireland, standing back up and having it going well some what. And yea.. I'm from EU member state.

Hope it goes well CHEERS!

Arcade_Tryer

logiteka wrote: »

Thanks to all for supporting reply. Could not login to boards.ie from abroad to respond. But in the first day of being in Ireland have got 3 calls for interview so far. So it doesnt seem that situation is as bad as some draw it. So happy for Ireland, standing back up and having it going well some what. And yea.. I'm from EU member state.

Hope it goes well CHEERS!

Welcome to Ireland. And good luck.

Musicman2000

JustAThought wrote: »

There are 220,000 people not working at the moment - Ireland has one of the hightest qualified young workforces in the world, a level seven is barely past our lowest acceptable schoolleavers educational standard here and not even having something to state that is even less attractive. It is certainly not MBA level, and despite what colleges may say or want you believe, there is little employer appetite for online courses here in lieu of full time university degrees and masters which are the norm. On top of all that Ireland/Dublin is an extremely expensive place to rent and if you want a house or shared appartment close to the city you will be paying top dollar for rental - if you can secure one.

All in all, given your need to find something senior within a month it might be more prudent to apply from where you are & try and progress interest and interviews from your home base rather than squander your savings on a 3 week frenzied trip and have to return with potentially nothing.

If you need a visa forget it in terms of travelling here and looking.

Have you read the experience the OP has? If i was personally hiring I couldn't give a rats arse what piece of paper he has. Its all down to experience better than any degree or mnba, which are complete money rackets for college and universities .

You should pick up work no problem , but i do agree stay well clear of Dublin , cost of living is crazy up there .

JoeyPeeps

jester77 wrote: »

JoeyPeeps wrote: »

If every European national in the UK is going to take that attitude come brexit then we won't be able to accommodate everyone now will we?

Luckily Ireland is not the only country left in the EU

It is the only English speaking country left.

The_Conductor

JoeyPeeps wrote: »

It is the only English speaking country left.

English is the defacto second language of Europe- in a manner French once was. This is the case from the top down. There are plenty of Europeans with significantly better English than either the average Irish or UK citizen. I'm often put to shame on points of grammar by Poles, Swedes, Germans and others.

English is a defacto working language throughout Europe- Ireland is very wrong if it thinks that flag waving and declaring us as the only English language country left in the EU means anything- patently, it doesn't.