Retaining cleanings

john mayo 10

Have a heifer that lost a calf on monday. Not due till next week. Seen blood on her tail and she had her tail out on monday. Got vet to have a look. Calf dead so pulled calf. She has retained her cleanings since. Bout 2 foot of it is hanging from her. Giving her 30 mls of pen and strip since. Will she hold them until due date or has anyone any idea

whelan2

Is she sick? Might be no harm to get vet to take the cleanings from her. She will probably need a wash out too.

john mayo 10

whelan2 wrote: »

Is she sick? Might be no harm to get vet to take the cleanings from her. She will probably need a wash out too.

Shes flying it. Eating like a horse. Vet said she mite hold them for a bit. Tied an old shoe to them earlier. Bit of weight the olde fella said

Mooooo

john mayo 10 wrote: »

Shes flying it. Eating like a horse. Vet said she mite hold them for a bit. Tied an old shoe to them earlier. Bit of weight the olde fella said

If she's not sick I'd keep with the course of antibiotics and it should come eventually. We're milking so if a cow holds cleaning we cut it just above the udder to keep her clean. Generally will pass after a course of antibiotics. Don't pull on it too much. It's own weight should do. Keep an eye on her, if it's still there in a few days perhaps give vet a ring again.

whelan2

No take the weight off. It will do more harm than goOd. Could make things worse as in the cleanings might break and you'll still be left with them.If you are unsure what you are at ring vet

RD10

had it happen few times here before. happened last year with a cow that twins and she retained the cleanings.
i would be of the same opinion as others re. adding extra weight to them. it can cause more damage so try avoid that.
supposed to leave for 10 days anyway and if after that she still hasnt cleaned get onto your vet again and they will prob take them out then and wash her out while their out. as long as she's eating away and 'healthy' leave her be for the 10 days. just make sure with your vet.

White Clover

RD10 wrote: »

had it happen few times here before. happened last year with a cow that twins and she retained the cleanings.
i would be of the same opinion as others re. adding extra weight to them. it can cause more damage so try avoid that.
supposed to leave for 10 days anyway and if after that she still hasnt cleaned get onto your vet again and they will prob take them out then and wash her out while their out. as long as she's eating away and 'healthy' leave her be for the 10 days. just make sure with your vet.

+1 to this. No weight and get vet to take after 10 days

orm0nd

surprised to hear vets still washing out cows, must be 15 years since we stopped it here

Mooooo

orm0nd wrote: »

surprised to hear vets still washing out cows, must be 15 years since we stopped it here

Use metricure here, didn't do any last year. Wouldn't use iodine. Do it myself though. Doreen used to suggest if a difficult calving or retained cleanings to wash out at 28days post calving and a shot of estrumate to clean em out

whelan2

orm0nd wrote: »

surprised to hear vets still washing out cows, must be 15 years since we stopped it here

Had a very sick cow here afew days after calving, vet washed her out with alamycin straight from the bottle never saw it done with it before, cow is due to calve again soon.

dar31

I'd always find that antibiotics while she still held cleaning tended to slow down the passing of cleaning,as soon as she cleaned then I'd go with a course of antibiotics. Pump with plenty of fluids during the time.
If she's that bad while holding its a vet job anyways.

orm0nd

Mooooo wrote: »

Use metricure here, didn't do any last year. Wouldn't use iodine. Do it myself though. Doreen used to suggest if a difficult calving or retained cleanings to wash out at 28days post calving and a shot of estrumate to clean em out

If the cow is passing whites we give a shot. If not we leave be. Conception rates haven't suffered

kevthegaff

Stomach tube iodine low solution into womb, give her time, oxytocin first 24hrs also then penstrep if smell develops and stomach tube

Mooooo

kevthegaff wrote: »

Stomach tube iodine low solution into womb, give her time, oxytocin first 24hrs also then penstrep if smell develops and stomach tube

I would only give the oxytocin in the few hours after calving, after that all it helps to do is drop milk don't think it helps much with the cleaning any later, from what I find anyway.

john mayo 10

Thsnks for all the replies. Shes not one bit sick eating away so gonna give her time

Never wrestle with pigs

dar31 wrote: »

I'd always find that antibiotics while she still held cleaning tended to slow down the passing of cleaning,as soon as she cleaned then I'd go with a course of antibiotics. Pump with plenty of fluids during the time.
If she's that bad while holding its a vet job anyways.

Vet advised against using antibiotics here for the same reason. It stops the natural brake down of the cleanings and slows the process down. If it's still really bad after 10 days then I wash out with iodine and give a good shot of vitamins.

Base price

Years ago we used to tie up the ends of the dragging cleaning's to the cows tail until she passed. Does anyone do it nowdays.
As a youngster it was a freaky sight when one came into the byre (with her bits attached) for milking.

bogman_bass

If they are hanging so low that they are dragging on the ground cut a coupe of inches off with sissors so they aren't stepped on

Sheep breeder

Usually take the cleanings after a couple of days and put in two pestaries in to the neck of the womb and 20 penstrep the next day, us to put in a Calmag bottle of iodine solution in with flutter valve tube and AI sheet.
Find both worked well and when talking cleaning wear plenty of gloves and a bag near by for waste.