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Poor quality silage

  • 02-01-2017 9:14pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 341 ✭✭


    I have about 15 bales from a paddock that was neglected in 2015.
    The cows are reluctant to eat these but will eat them when there is nothing else.
    I fed one of these with this years bales and they ignored it so far.

    Is there anything i can add to make these more palatable rather than dumping them.Moylasis ?

    The cows are in great shape, there is no mould or waste in the bales but the pasture was old and with lots of docs.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 10,989 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    feartuath wrote: »
    I have about 15 bales from a paddock that was neglected in 2015.
    The cows are reluctant to eat these but will eat them when there is nothing else.
    I fed one of these with this years bales and they ignored it so far.

    Is there anything i can add to make these more palatable rather than dumping them.Moylasis ?

    The cows are in great shape, there is no mould or waste in the bales but the pasture was old and with lots of docs.
    Molasses mixed with water and poured over the silage. If the paddock was neglected watch out for ragwort in the bales.


  • Registered Users Posts: 757 ✭✭✭Signpost


    Same as straw, wait until no silage infront of them, feed the poor bale and don't give them anything else until its eaten, then give them a good feed of nice silage again. Repeat a few days later until all gone. Won't be happy but if they are getting plenty good silage one fill of poorer quality won't do them any hard in the week.
    I'd be slow to put money into making a poor feed valuable, just save the money for a concentrate and force them to eat it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,559 ✭✭✭pedigree 6


    You learn the hard way about making silage. Now you'll know in future.

    I was the same one wet year, the grass grew and was ready to be harvested but it was too wet to cut and it collapsed to the ground and it regrew and I eventually got it cut and baled. It looked ok when feeding but I nearly starved the cows giving the cows that silage they lost weight instead of maintaining or putting on weight.
    Lesson learned. Your going to have to feed some concentrate with this silage or else feed other silage.

    Edit: it's only 15 bales and cows in good order so I'd go with the molasses on the bales.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,968 ✭✭✭davidk1394


    Molasses is the best option. Use it here on bales of silage and the odd bale of hay if we want to use it up. What we do is stand the bale up like a barrel the day before your going to use it. Cut off the plastic off the top of the bale but leave the sides. Pour the bucket of molasses all over the top of the bale and leave it soak down through the bale. It means nearly all the bale is covered in molasses but you still stay clean aswell


  • Registered Users Posts: 60 ✭✭lookinghere


    Molasses is a worth a try


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  • Registered Users Posts: 814 ✭✭✭Sugarbowl


    Anyone know the price of molasses per gallon from their co-op?


  • Registered Users Posts: 341 ✭✭feartuath


    19 Euro for 25 lt drum from Co op in Buntatty

    10 Euro for gallon can, 3lt from Dan Mc Inerney Ennis.

    I will give them a few good bales tonight and pour some molasses on the other bales next time i feed them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 814 ✭✭✭Sugarbowl


    feartuath wrote: »
    19 Euro for 25 lt drum from Co op in Buntatty

    10 Euro for gallon can, 3lt from Dan Mc Inerney Ennis.

    I will give them a few good bales tonight and pour some molasses on the other bales next time i feed them.

    Thanks. By the way, how much roughly do you put on a bale?


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,861 ✭✭✭alps


    feartuath wrote: »
    19 Euro for 25 lt drum from Co op in Buntatty

    10 Euro for gallon can, 3lt from Dan Mc Inerney Ennis.

    I will give them a few good bales tonight and pour some molasses on the other bales next time i feed them.

    Whoever owns that store in Bunratty should be burned at the stake....

    If i recall there are 180 gallons of molasses in a tonne which means these beauties are charging €620 per tonne....

    There are extortion rackets going on all over the world, but I would say the mafia have more class than this.....


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,025 ✭✭✭Who2


    I think I paid 7 a five gallon drum( bringing in my own drums) last year.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,968 ✭✭✭davidk1394


    Paid 600 here for 1,000 litres of it. Put 5 litres on each bales using a small blue bucket


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,005 ✭✭✭Green farmer


    davidk1394 wrote: »
    Paid 600 here for 1,000 litres of it. Put 5 litres on each bales using a small blue bucket

    Premier molasses is in foynes. Went there before and bought it direct. They fill up your ibc tank to whatever you want. From memory think it worked out about 30cent a litre. Of course this would only suit someone in driving distance, but handy all the same.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭restive


    Does anyone do bulk molasses in the West of Ireland?


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    restive wrote: »
    Does anyone do bulk molasses in the West of Ireland?

    I know cormac in tuam do it anyways


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    restive wrote: »
    Does anyone do bulk molasses in the West of Ireland?
    Joe Murrays in Ballinasloe ;)
    Creamery in Athleague used to have it, but maybe not anymore?


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,861 ✭✭✭alps


    Finishing PM....used molasses last March to up energy levels during grass shortage.

    It cost €232 euros per tonne from local coop...equating to 32.5c per litre..

    It's 74%DM so hitting for 313€ per tonne DM.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,315 ✭✭✭razor8


    Any suppliers in Leitrim/Cavan area?



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