BVD arrangements for 2017- AHI Press Release

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BVD Eradication Programme



Following a meeting of the BVD Implementation Group on Monday 19th December, the Chairman, Mr. Joe O’Flaherty, welcomed the agreement reached between the Implementation Group and the Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine in relation to a series of key measures for the programme in 2017.



Commenting, Mr. O’Flaherty said “The national BVD eradication programme has shown considerable success in tackling this damaging disease. The number of Persistently Infected (PI) animals born in 2016 is less than one quarter of that seen in 2013, the first year of the compulsory programme. Furthermore, significant improvements have been made in reducing the extent to which PIs are retained on farm; currently only 117 of more than 83,000 breeding herds contain PIs that have been retained for more than 7 weeks”. Mr. O’Flaherty went on to say that “these very encouraging results indicate that complete eradication is well within reach, and the measures which have just been agreed will further accelerate our progress towards that objective”.



Mr. O’Flaherty concluded by reminding farmers of the benefits of obtaining and protecting Negative Herd Status (NHS). By identifying and testing any animals whose status is not known, farmers can obtain NHS and access lower cost testing. He also noted that appropriate biosecurity measures should be put in place to minimize the risk of accidental introduction of infection through movement of animals, people or equipment, or across boundaries



Key measures for 2017



Tissue tag testing remains compulsory for 2017. DAFM no longer issues tag order forms. A list of suppliers of approved tags and of the laboratories approved to test these is available from http://animalhealthireland.ie/?page_id=231 . Contact laboratories for prices for testing each tag type. Only send tags to labs designated to test that particular tag type.


Increased DAFM supports but reduced time limits for removal of PI calves.
Beef herds:

€185 for beef breed animals removed with a registered date of death on AIM within 3 weeks of the initial test, reducing to €60 if removed in the 4th or 5th week after the initial test.

Dairy herds:

Dairy and dairy cross heifers: €150 if removed within 3 weeks of the initial test, reducing to €35 if removed in the 4th or 5th week after the initial test. €30 for removal of bull calves within 3 weeks of the initial test.



For full terms and conditions see https://goo.gl/2PPb1X .



DAFM will issue an application form to farmers who are potentially eligible for payments.



Veterinary investigations of all herds with PI calves born in 2017. All herds with PI calves born in 2017 are required to undergo an investigation funded through the Rural Development Plan, and delivered by an approved private veterinary practitioner, within 3 months of the date of the first positive result. For details contact Animal Health Ireland on 071 967 1928 or see https://goo.gl/Nw8ZgH.


Confirmatory and dam testing by blood sample only. Testing of the dam of PI calves and, where desired, confirmatory testing of the calf must be done by means of a blood sample only. DAFM will meet the cost of the visit by the herd’s veterinary practitioner and the cost of testing.


Restriction of herds retaining PI calves and notification of neighbours. DAFM will automatically restrict movements into and out of herds that retain PI animals for more than five weeks after the date of the initial test. These will be automatically lifted following removal of PIs. Neighbouring herds will also be notified, advising them to take appropriate biosecurity measures to minimize the risk of accidental introduction of infection.

Sheep breeder

About time that they have locked up Pi herds, will make them come to their senses quickly with movement restrictions.

farmerjj

Sheep breeder wrote: »

About time that they have locked up Pi herds, will make them come to their senses quickly with movement restrictions.

You wonder why it took so long(nice little earner all the same)

kerry cow

This was a two year program in 2013 .We are now heading In to 17 .same old rubbish to get it off the ground and then keep it moving .tag sales and lab fees .
Why can't we test for many diseases at once even if it ment a blood sample .and get all this under control .
For years everything that went any way wrong vet blames oh its bvd . Not any more but we have so much more , John's and the biggest abortion cause is nearospora ( incorrect spelling ) .Bet you didn't know that . And yet it goes under the public radar .cam we not do two or three things at once ?? The reult would be a win win for farmers but the medicine or vet boys might not like it in the long run.

whelan2

kerry cow wrote: »

This was a two year program in 2013 .We are now heading In to 17 .same old rubbish to get it off the ground and then keep it moving .tag sales and lab fees .
Why can't we test for many diseases at once even if it ment a blood sample .and get all this under control .
For years everything that went any way wrong vet blames oh its bvd . Not any more but we have so much more , John's and the biggest abortion cause is nearospora ( incorrect spelling ) .Bet you didn't know that . And yet it goes under the public radar .cam we not do two or three things at once ?? The reult would be a win win for farmers but the medicine or vet boys might not like it in the long run.

Johnes will take years and years to eradicate, I am year 3 of my johnes eradication plan, will take another 3 or 4 at least and that is without buying in any animals. Fooker of a disease. Was there to be a big announcement before christmas by AHI abiout a johnes plan? Did it happen?

kerry cow

There's a big disease problem out there .I sell this to you and your selling that to him .vets really don't care .They say they do but overall they don't .seriously do anybody really think it's in there best interest to eradicate disease .We all know about tb . All the vaccine that are sold .would be best if ifa and co were to push for a all farmer co operation in testing for the the main diseases in a clean sweep .

mahoney_j

kerry cow wrote: »

This was a two year program in 2013 .We are now heading In to 17 .same old rubbish to get it off the ground and then keep it moving .tag sales and lab fees .
Why can't we test for many diseases at once even if it ment a blood sample .and get all this under control .
For years everything that went any way wrong vet blames oh its bvd . Not any more but we have so much more , John's and the biggest abortion cause is nearospora ( incorrect spelling ) .Bet you didn't know that . And yet it goes under the public radar .cam we not do two or three things at once ?? The reult would be a win win for farmers but the medicine or vet boys might not like it in the long run.

No point blaming labs /dept etc .tge blame lies at the farmers doors who kept pi ainmals who then shed it to other animals .it was them who have caused the continuous testing to be nesecarry .

Sheep breeder

kerry cow wrote: »

This was a two year program in 2013 .We are now heading In to 17 .same old rubbish to get it off the ground and then keep it moving .tag sales and lab fees .
Why can't we test for many diseases at once even if it ment a blood sample .and get all this under control .
For years everything that went any way wrong vet blames oh its bvd . Not any more but we have so much more , John's and the biggest abortion cause is nearospora ( incorrect spelling ) .Bet you didn't know that . And yet it goes under the public radar .cam we not do two or three things at once ?? The reult would be a win win for farmers but the medicine or vet boys might not like it in the long run.

Think you need a consaw to try and remove that big chip on your shoulder,

kerry cow

Sheep breeder wrote:

Think you need a consaw to try and remove that big chip on your shoulder,

It's people who have a problem with others expressing their view that must have a chip .Personally it makes no difference what I think because it not going to change a dam thing .

Bullocks

kerry cow wrote: »

This was a two year program in 2013 .We are now heading In to 17 .same old rubbish to get it off the ground and then keep it moving .tag sales and lab fees .
Why can't we test for many diseases at once even if it ment a blood sample .and get all this under control .
For years everything that went any way wrong vet blames oh its bvd . Not any more but we have so much more , John's and the biggest abortion cause is nearospora ( incorrect spelling ) .Bet you didn't know that . And yet it goes under the public radar .cam we not do two or three things at once ?? The reult would be a win win for farmers but the medicine or vet boys might not like it in the long run.

I dont know why we cant test for a few other things aswell while we're taking a sample anyhow and get a bit more value from the labs

whelan2

Bullocks wrote: »

I dont know why we cant test for a few other things aswell while we're taking a sample anyhow and get a bit more value from the labs

I asked that before and I think there was fevk all that could be tested for in it. Johnes is by blood /milk or dung sample when animal is over 2 years old

charolais0153

Ibr should be next one I'd imagine. How's that done.

Bullocks

Anyone know how much theyre getting from the rural development fund ? Its better than the council using it up at the end of the year I suppose

barnaman

charolais0153 wrote: »

Ibr should be next one I'd imagine. How's that done.

Bloods pretty cheap I got all my cows tested for IBR and Johnnes. 6 tested postive for IBR and 2 for Johnnes. Vet said cull the Jonnes and factory all hefiers out of them. Said keep IBR and vaccinate. Asked about culling IBR and said half the cattle in Ireland would be gone if you did that. I know mandatory cull for IBR in Austria etc. The Dutch export market could be closed to us on the IBR issue

http://www.ibr-marker.com/epidemiology-detail.html

whelan2

barnaman wrote: »

Bloods pretty cheap I got all my cows tested for IBR and Johnnes. 6 tested postive for IBR and 2 for Johnnes. Vet said cull the Jonnes and factory all hefiers out of them. Said keep IBR and vaccinate. Asked about culling IBR and said half the cattle in Ireland would be gone if you did that. I know mandatory cull for IBR in Austria etc. The Dutch export market could be closed to us on the IBR issue

http://www.ibr-marker.com/epidemiology-detail.html

I am culling all families of any johnes positive animals. Not enough to get rid off the one that tests positive alone.

Keepgrowing

barnaman wrote: »

Bloods pretty cheap I got all my cows tested for IBR and Johnnes. 6 tested postive for IBR and 2 for Johnnes. Vet said cull the Jonnes and factory all hefiers out of them. Said keep IBR and vaccinate. Asked about culling IBR and said half the cattle in Ireland would be gone if you did that. I know mandatory cull for IBR in Austria etc. The Dutch export market could be closed to us on the IBR issue

http://www.ibr-marker.com/epidemiology-detail.html

If IBR positive cattle were removed 100% of mine would be gone as we vaccinate.

Keepgrowing

whelan2 wrote: »

I am culling all families of any johnes positive animals. Not enough to get rid off the one that tests positive alone.

We were going to take part in the Johnes scheme but decided against it because farmers couldn't be trusted to operate the simple BVD scheme. If fully supported it would be finished by now.

Farmers fault, nobody else's

whelan2

Keepgrowing wrote: »

We were going to take part in the Johnes scheme but decided against it because farmers couldn't be trusted to operate the simple BVD scheme. If fully supported it would be finished by now.

Farmers fault, nobody else's

No I left the ahi scheme. I am working through it with my vet. Blood everything 2 years and over at tb test.

Buford T. Justice XIX

Keepgrowing wrote: »

If IBR positive cattle were removed 100% of mine would be gone as we vaccinate.

Ones positive for marker vaccines would be exempt, I imagine. Just the naturally contracted ones would be culled.

Bellview

whelan2 wrote:

No I left the ahi scheme. I am working through it with my vet. Blood everything 2 years and over at tb test.

I'm using the northern folks for testing through vet for Johnes and Ibr as I found ahi unresponsive when I asked for data on johnes.
Milk consumption of calves from johnes is the risky area. For suckler it is easy identify..once not cross suckling. In dairy herd more challenging when feeding whole milk

jaymla627

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

Ones positive for marker vaccines would be exempt, I imagine. Just the naturally contracted ones would be culled.

IBR testing is iffy, false positives are pretty common where vaccinationing, you could be culling perfectly good animals....
Everything here is vaccinated every 6 months and calves are done at 3 weeks, 3 months and 6 month intervals after that,

whelan2

Bellview wrote: »

I'm using the northern folks for testing through vet for Johnes and Ibr as I found ahi unresponsive when I asked for data on johnes.
Milk consumption of calves from johnes is the risky area. For suckler it is easy identify..once not cross suckling. In dairy herd more challenging when feeding whole milk

Yes the main problem is calves have to get rotavec biestings from mothers for 12 days. No calf gets biestings here from heifers. No milk from end of milk either fed to calves. Enfer test our bloods. I was in the scheme, there was a 100 euro payment i missed out on it as I only blood tested 95% of eligible animals rather than 96% that would have been 1 or 2 animals

Base price

I would advise anyone who has disposed of a pi to ensure that the animals are removed from their CMMS in order to avoid a movement restriction been placed on your herd.
I and others on here (the Sheriff is one I know of) have had situations where dead calves were collected by the local knackery, paperwork completed etc yet the tag numbers showed up later on in the year during the annual herd test. We had a case in Spring where two calves died (bloat) and were collected at the same time yet their tags showed up in Sept at the herd test. We got a call from the local DVO a few days later and he was adamant that it was our responsibility (via Agfood) to ensure that deceased animals were no longer showing on our herd profile. I explained that we had the correct paperwork, that the tags had been written out of the blue book and we did not use the online herd book in Agfood. Needless to say I was wasting my breath.