Jeanie Johnston

NUTLEY BOY · 30-12-2016 12:12pm #1

Ok, I give up. Where have they hidden it ?

Marine Traffic says it is moored in Dublin Port. I cycled past it's usual berth yesterday afternoon and it definitely was not there..

HeidiHeidi · 30-12-2016 12:16pm

Was wondering the same myself! Wasn't there on the Friday before Christmas when I passed.

Can't find it on marine traffic at all :eek:

ETA - ok, found it on marine traffic, I was spelling it wrong! But that's a file location/fix from 2015.....

I'm assuming it's up on the dry somewhere in the port, being fixed. Again.

fergal.b · 02-01-2017 6:16pm

Yep she is in getting fixed again.

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Stovepipe · 09-01-2017 3:05pm

A Captain I once knew said it had been designed by a Committee and had suffered as a result and his damning statement was that "it couldn't sail out of it's own way"

HeidiHeidi · 09-01-2017 3:07pm

Stovepipe wrote: »

A Captain I once knew said it had been designed by a Committee and had suffered as a result and his damning statement was that "it couldn't sail out of it's own way"

I thought/understood it was a grand ship while it was doing what it was designed to do - sail - and all the problems started only after it was parked up and retired (at about age 3)?

Stovepipe · 09-01-2017 3:09pm

The Captain said that it was too heavy for what it was supposed to be and that it didn't handle well. Essentially, there were too many compromises made to try and suit everybody. Parked up ships require more or less constant care, too. there's always something needs dealing with.

Tabnabs · 10-01-2017 9:26am

I've always thought it a missed opportunity not to put her into the dry docks in the Grand Canal Basin and make an attraction of her like the Cutty Sark in London

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NUTLEY BOY · 11-01-2017 12:50pm

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

I thought/understood it was a grand ship while it was doing what it was designed to do - sail - and all the problems started only after it was parked up and retired (at about age 3)?

Likewise. I never got to sail on her but any reports I got back from others all said that she performed soundly.

Ironically, a ship in constant use probably makes me feel safer because everything is receiving attention on an on-going basis. I certainly felt that way about Asgard II every time I sailed on her. I did feel terribly frustrated looking at Jeanie Johnston alongside being crewed by seagulls and going nowhere for ages..

HeidiHeidi · 11-01-2017 1:16pm

NUTLEY BOY wrote: »

Likewise. I never got to sail on her but any reports I got back from others all said that she performed soundly.

Ironically, a ship in constant use probably makes me feel safer because everything is receiving attention on an on-going basis. I certainly felt that way about Asgard II every time I sailed on her. I did feel terribly frustrated looking at Jeanie Johnston alongside being crewed by seagulls and going nowhere for ages..

I'm the opposite - never got to sail on the Asgard (was booked to do a trip to/around Scotland, but had to cancel due to work commitments

and never got another chance), but did a day sail out of DL on the Jeanie Johnston. My goodness it was hard work!!!

Wouldn't express an opinion on her soundness or otherwise based on that few hours aboard, but agree wholeheartedly that a ship in full-time use would instil far more confidence than one tied up alongside and only taken out occasionally.

CINCLANTFLT · 11-01-2017 1:19pm

Tabnabs wrote: »

I've always thought it a missed opportunity not to put her into the dry docks in the Grand Canal Basin and make an attraction of her like the Cutty Sark in London

Wow... that looks cool!

HeidiHeidi · 11-01-2017 1:20pm

CINCLANTFLT wrote: »

Wow... that looks cool!

I wouldn't be a great one for museums or installations - but that is one AMAZING thing to visit. Absolutely fascinating, and brilliantly done.

CINCLANTFLT · 11-01-2017 1:22pm

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

I wouldn't be a great one for museums or installations - but that is one AMAZING thing to visit. Absolutely fascinating, and brilliantly done.

We're talking about bringing the kids to London... we'll need to add this to the list!

HeidiHeidi · 11-01-2017 1:29pm

CINCLANTFLT wrote: »

We're talking about bringing the kids to London... we'll need to add this to the list!

Oh do!!! I got the ferry from near Westminster Bridge, it went off out the river as far as the Thames Barrier and you could see the cablecar at the O2 (can't remember what ferry/boat it was but if I found it anyone can, and it didn't cost a bomb) and went to visit Greenwich - wanted to see the date line and all that jazz.

I should've spent the whole weekend there - there's tons to see. The observatory and date line and the Harrison watch etc etc - then there's a gorgeous park, and you could spend hours at the Cutty Sark, the village itself is lovely, and I didn't even get in the door of the Naval College/Maritime Museum (which I believe you could spend a weekend in all by itself).

Will definitely go back again when I have more time!

hytrogen · 11-01-2017 1:31pm

Stovepipe wrote:

The Captain said that it was too heavy for what it was supposed to be and that it didn't handle well. Essentially, there were too many compromises made to try and suit everybody. Parked up ships require more or less constant care, too. there's always something needs dealing with.

That's why a ship that is constructed to her master's practical specifications always was a success. You stick a committee on there and she develops an angle of loll!

hytrogen · 11-01-2017 1:37pm

CINCLANTFLT wrote:

We're talking about bringing the kids to London... we'll need to add this to the list!

Don't forget to tip the hat to Sir Walter Raleigh for the spuds & tobacco! His statue is in the university of Greenwich grounds next to the Cutty Sark

Water John · 11-01-2017 1:51pm

I presume the addition of the diesel engines is what causes any sailing problems for the JJ. Only toured it once, never sailed.
A pity they did not keep it in Kerry, that's its home.

HeidiHeidi · 07-02-2017 7:47pm

There was the bould Jeanie on the 6o'c news, last ship to use the dry dock in Dublin Port.

Presume she'll be back on her berth soon.

Atlantic Dawn · 12-02-2017 8:14pm

At about 38 minutes in, seems mad to close it down, especially if emergency repairs are needed nearest will be Belfast and then Cork...
http://www.rte.ie/player/ie/show/rte-news-six-one-30003249/10684068/

BoltzmannBrain · 15-02-2017 11:34am

The Jeanie Johnston is reopening for visitors this week!

http://coastmonkey.ie/jeanie-johnston/

neris · 15-02-2017 12:40pm

BoltzmannBrain wrote: »

The Jeanie Johnston is reopening for visitors this week!

http://coastmonkey.ie/jeanie-johnston/

The floating white elephant

NUTLEY BOY · 16-02-2017 4:04pm

neris wrote: »

The floating white elephant

To be fair Jeanie has had her hull licked by foreign and home waters on many occasions - mind you not often enough in recent years.

My nominee for a maritime white elephant is the DUNBRODY :mad: That is the one that really drives me mad. They built a lovely vessel but she has never cruised on the open sea as she should have. Does she even have an engine ?

I have absolutely no argument with the folks who operate her now as a visitor centre of cultural value but it drives me ballistic that she did not become a proper seagoing vessel as should have happened IMHO.

HeidiHeidi · 16-02-2017 6:23pm

NUTLEY BOY wrote: »

To be fair Jeanie has had her hull licked by foreign and home waters on many occasions - mind you not often enough in recent years.

My nominee for a maritime white elephant is the DUNBRODY :mad: That is the one that really drives me mad. They built a lovely vessel but she has never cruised on the open sea as she should have. Does she even have an engine ?

I have absolutely no argument with the folks who operate her now as a visitor centre of cultural value but it drives me ballistic that she did not become a proper seagoing vessel as should have happened IMHO.

Was it not the case that the Dunbrody was only ever built as a museum/exhibition piece? That it was never intended to go sailing in the first place?

Where as Jeannie was definitely meant to be - and was - a working ship.

If I've got my stories straight (and there's no guarantee I have!) then the hobbling of her by various committeeeeeeees would drive me far madder.

galwaytt · 16-02-2017 11:19pm

CINCLANTFLT wrote: »

We're talking about bringing the kids to London... we'll need to add this to the list!

HMS Belfast moored in the City Centre too.

Not in London but the Mary Rose exhibit in Portsmouth def worth a look too.

BeardySi · 17-02-2017 8:53pm

galwaytt wrote: »

Not in London but the Mary Rose exhibit in Portsmouth def worth a look too.

Along with HMS Warrior and the incredible HMS Victory.

Or there's Chatham with the HMS Gannet, Ocelot and HMS Cavalier.

Oh for a decent maritime museum in these parts.

SteM · 21-02-2017 9:49am

Anyone know when the Jeanie Johnston is going back to her berth? It's moored on Sit John Rogerson's Quay at the moment, was wondering when it would go back to North Wall Quay.

HeidiHeidi · 21-02-2017 9:56am

SteM wrote: »

Anyone know when the Jeanie Johnston is going back to her berth? It's moored on Sit John Rogerson's Quay at the moment, was wondering when it would go back to North Wall Quay.

Back in her own spot by 24th Feb.

http://afloat.ie/sail/tall-ships/item/35029-reopening-of-dublin-city-centre-tourist-tallship-deferred

NUTLEY BOY · 16-05-2017 2:07pm

Passed by on Sunday. It is back in position on the North Quays and looked like there was a tour in progress.

The foremast and mainmast seem to be fully rigged again.

The mizzen mast is surrounded by scaffolding and seems to be quite incomplete. In fact, the stub that is there looks like it is raked towards the stern ?

The sooner that they sell her to someone who will take her to sea the better.

Jeanie Johnston

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