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Land Registry Folio - Title

  • 29-12-2016 10:14PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,596 ✭✭✭


    I took a look at a folio of a house we are interested in buying, Under part 2 Ownership its says Title - POSSESSORY FIAT 02-JAN-1959

    But in the box it says the person is the full owner

    In a previous folio on a different property i looked at it said Title - Absolute

    Im just wondering what it means when it says possessory fiat


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,917 ✭✭✭GM228


    andy125 wrote: »
    I took a look at a folio of a house we are interested in buying, Under part 2 Ownership its says Title - POSSESSORY FIAT 02-JAN-1959

    But in the box it says the person is the full owner

    In a previous folio on a different property i looked at it said Title - Absolute

    Im just wondering what it means when it says possessory fiat

    Possessory fiat = adverse possession.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,596 ✭✭✭andy125


    Does that mean that the property can not be sold with possessory title until absolute title is registered?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,347 ✭✭✭NUTLEY BOY


    andy125 wrote: »
    Does that mean that the property can not be sold with possessory title until absolute title is registered?

    The primary objective of a good and valid conveyance is to obtain clear title that is defensible against all comers.

    If the vendor does not have good title then there has to a question as to how they can validly convey ownership to the putative purchaser. Equally, if there is another party with a potential legal interest in the title the same question arises.

    This is precisely why the services of a solicitor are imperative in such transactions as these - even if it is only to advise the client, after searches on title and so on, to walk away...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 88 ✭✭Forbearance


    In the rush to buy discounted distressed assets many vulture funds ( and indeed the solicitors acting for them ) have been found wanting in his regard. Litigants are discovering this with a simple trip to the PRA and a perousal of the instruments of transfer to these vulture funds. It appears that the courts require perfection of title as a requirement to issue a repossession order. If the said entities do not have perfection of title, the debtor can always raise the legal counter argument of jurisdiction and locus standi.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,642 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    In the rush to buy discounted distressed assets many vulture funds ( and indeed the solicitors acting for them ) have been found wanting in his regard.

    When the OP said "a house we are interested in buying", I suspect that was in a personal capacity rather than as a representative of a 'vulture fund'.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 88 ✭✭Forbearance


    Graham wrote: »
    When the OP said "a house we are interested in buying", I suspect that was in a personal capacity rather than as a representative of a 'vulture fund'.

    It does not make an iota of difference, the same rules apply in order to obtain perfection of title on conveyance.


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