Vectra, is it worth [to keep] it?

stedeb

Hi all and happy Christmas to you all.
I have a dilemma and looking for opinions .
I have a 07 vectra life 1.6 . I have had this since 08 and now has only 119k km on the clock. It got a new fan belt, brake fluid timing belt at 110k km last ma. Passed nct in Oct and is valid until Oct 2018. Was a Jan reg and offered longer to have done early.
So now in the last week or so I notice vibrations in the pedals on acceleration so I brought it to the garage and they had a look at the cv joints . They said there is only a tiny play in them so they don't think it's that. They suggest that it could be the gearbox and to have a second opinion . So today brought it to a gearbox crowd and he thinks yes it's in the gearbox and also maybe clutch also.
It's also pulling slightly to the left which I had checked and they think it needs electric power steering pump .
Now my dilemma. The car is only worth about 2500 at best private, less as a trade in . The gearbox and clutch will set me back 800 odd . And pump I can probably get a second hand one and have fitted for 200 ish.
I need opinions on keep or get rid . If I keep and fix Im thinking how long more before other parts start need replacing so will start costing. Or do I get rid
A. now as a car needing gearbox so how much could I get for it .
Or
B. Fix it up and get a few months out of it and trade up then.
Haven't got a huge stack to trade with maybe 7K don't think I'll get pcp as not working at the moment.
Thanks for reading and looking forward to your opinions .
Stephen

Cee-Jay-Cee

If the car is going fine otherwise then fix it and drive it for another few years. It has low mileage and you should get another 100k kms out if it if you service it regularly.

youll be fitting anew clutch with the gearbox and so they're good for another 100k or thereabouts.

You'll get zero for it with the current problems so your better off repairing it.

stedeb

Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »

If the car is going fine otherwise then fix it and drive it for another few years. It has low mileage and you should get another 100k kms out if it if you service it regularly.

youll be fitting anew clutch with the gearbox and so they're good for another 100k or thereabouts.

You'll get zero for it with the current problems so your better off repairing it.

Thanks cee jay cee
Yeah I'm slightly heading towards fixing it .its going to be worth Jack in 2 years anyway

unkel

stedeb wrote: »

The car is only worth about 2500 at best

The car as is worth nowhere near that, I'm afraid. If it were me, I'd sell it privately (or maybe to your mechanic who could do a nixer on it and sell it on for a profit). Selling it privately, the very long NCT sure will help!

stedeb

unkel wrote: »

The car as is worth nowhere near that, I'm afraid. If it were me, I'd sell it privately (or maybe to your mechanic who could do a nixer on it and sell it on for a profit). Selling it privately, the very long NCT sure will help!

Thanks unkel
That's an option but just trying to decide which is best . I know either way I'm not going to get much money for it ..
Cheers

Phenoxan

Is your engine code Z16XEP? I am guessing it is. If so, the vibrations when pulling away is your clutch plate vibrating off the flywheel. Its a very common issue with these engines. I have one with the exact same issue. Are you on the original clutch?

Opel released a bulletin regarding the original clutch material being insufficient for the engine.

If you are going to replace the clutch, dont cheap out on it and try get a decent one. Or you could find yourself having the same issue.

I have a 2007 Vectra Design 1.6 with 203k on the clock and besides the clutch issue it runs like a champ.

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Field Remedy: 2119
Subject: Transmission F17, Clutch - Judder when pulling away from cold
Models: Engines: Option:
Astra-G 2003...2006,Astra-H 2004...2007,Meriva 2006...2007,Zafira-B 2006...2007,Signum 2002...2007,Vectra-C 2002...2007 Z16XEP,Z16XEP| Z16YNG| Z18XE| Z18XER| Z16XER,Z16XEP| Z18XE,Z16XEP| Z16YNG| Z18XER,Z16XEP| Z18XE| Z18XER,Z16XEP| Z18XE| Z18XER
Complaint: Cluch judders 2 to 4 times when pulling away from cold. This complaint occurs mainly when outside temperature is below 10°C.
Cause: Unfavourable friction material.
Production: Improved friction material/flywheel have been introduced in production (May 2007) as of engineno.: 20KC2905.

Remedy: In case of customer complaint replace clutch disk, pressure plate and
flywheel.
Note: Flywheel has to be replaced only on vehicles prior mentioned
enginebreakpoint.
All reworked vehicles according this information have to be clearly marked
by a green paint dot on the cover selector lever as shown in the
picture I, X.

Spare-Parts: Part-No.: Catalogue-No.:
Clutch disk engine Z18XER 93192580 06 64 288
Clutch disk all other engines 93192579 06 64 287
Clutch pressure plate 55562026 06 66 351
Flywheel 93186460 56 16 016
FunctionalGroup: K - Clutch/Transmission
Complaint Group: 13 - No/Poor Function
Trouble Code: None

stedeb

Phenoxan wrote: »

Is your engine code Z16XEP? I am guessing it is. If so, the vibrations when pulling away is your clutch plate vibrating off the flywheel. Its a very common issue with these engines. I have one with the exact same issue. Are you on the original clutch?

Opel released a bulletin regarding the original clutch material being insufficient for the engine.

If you are going to replace the clutch, dont cheap out on it and try get a decent one. Or you could find yourself having the same issue.

I have a 2007 Vectra Design 1.6 with 203k on the clock and besides the clutch issue it runs like a champ.

---

Field Remedy: 2119
Subject: Transmission F17, Clutch - Judder when pulling away from cold
Models: Engines: Option:
Astra-G 2003...2006,Astra-H 2004...2007,Meriva 2006...2007,Zafira-B 2006...2007,Signum 2002...2007,Vectra-C 2002...2007 Z16XEP,Z16XEP| Z16YNG| Z18XE| Z18XER| Z16XER,Z16XEP| Z18XE,Z16XEP| Z16YNG| Z18XER,Z16XEP| Z18XE| Z18XER,Z16XEP| Z18XE| Z18XER
Complaint: Cluch judders 2 to 4 times when pulling away from cold. This complaint occurs mainly when outside temperature is below 10°C.
Cause: Unfavourable friction material.
Production: Improved friction material/flywheel have been introduced in production (May 2007) as of engineno.: 20KC2905.

Remedy: In case of customer complaint replace clutch disk, pressure plate and
flywheel.
Note: Flywheel has to be replaced only on vehicles prior mentioned
enginebreakpoint.
All reworked vehicles according this information have to be clearly marked
by a green paint dot on the cover selector lever as shown in the
picture I, X.

Spare-Parts: Part-No.: Catalogue-No.:
Clutch disk engine Z18XER 93192580 06 64 288
Clutch disk all other engines 93192579 06 64 287
Clutch pressure plate 55562026 06 66 351
Flywheel 93186460 56 16 016
FunctionalGroup: K - Clutch/Transmission
Complaint Group: 13 - No/Poor Function
Trouble Code: None

Thanks for that . Don't know if it's that model . How do I check? I do remember that kind of thing happening a while back . Now the problem is the gear box . Last night whining noise and hard vibrating . Definitely needs to be replaced if I keep. Should opel have contacted me about replacing those bits ?
Cheers for the reply
Stephen

stedeb

sugarman wrote: »

Keep it and get it sorted if there's nothing else wrong with it. It's a car you know inside out having had it since new, well practically new. After all the work you you should get another 3/4/5 years out of it, easily double the mileage anyway.

What's to say you did get rid of it and get something new that that won't have issues? Could easily buy a new car that's never had anything done and 6 months down the line the gearbox also goes... Back to square one.

Thanks . That's exactly where my head is at . I know deep down that once this is sorted it will last for a while . I don't do huge mileage always serviced regularly just pumped timing belt and a few upkeep bits to it recently and now this bombshell . If I change I'll get Jack for this and as you say any other car I don't know the history so taking a gamble with maybe further expense .
Cheers for your input .thanks
Ste

colm_mcm

Is there anything to be said for 'resurfacing' the clutch? As in burn it out a little bit. I fixed a 1.6 Zafira with a juddery clutch that way back in the day.

stedeb

colm_mcm wrote: »

Is there anything to be said for 'resurfacing' the clutch? As in burn it out a little bit. I fixed a 1.6 Zafira with a juddery clutch that way back in the day.

Thanks colm the main thing is the gear box it's about to go so as it's the first clutch o may replace this too .
Cheers ste

_Kaiser_

Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »

If the car is going fine otherwise then fix it and drive it for another few years. It has low mileage and you should get another 100k kms out if it if you service it regularly.

youll be fitting anew clutch with the gearbox and so they're good for another 100k or thereabouts.

You'll get zero for it with the current problems so your better off repairing it.

The issue he's gonna have though will be insurance. Once it hits 10/11 years old many companies won't quote him or will quote even more stupid amounts then they are now.

This "unofficial" age limit means that many still good cars will need to be scrapped for no mechanical reason.

stedeb

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

The issue he's gonna have though will be insurance. Once it hits 10/11 years old many companies won't quote him or will quote even more stupid amounts then they are now.

This "unofficial" age limit means that many still good cars will need to be scrapped for no mechanical reason.

Thanks kaiser yeah starting to hear that with 15yo cars Ifor it stretches for another 5 I would be happy out.
Thanks ste

colm_mcm

stedeb wrote: »

Thanks colm the main thing is the gear box it's about to go so as it's the first clutch o may replace this too .
Cheers ste

If the gearbox is wonky the diff may be causing the pulling to one side.

The_Honeybadger

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

The issue he's gonna have though will be insurance. Once it hits 10/11 years old many companies won't quote him or will quote even more stupid amounts then they are now.

This "unofficial" age limit means that many still good cars will need to be scrapped for no mechanical reason.

This is a bit of a myth. Some companies are loading older cars and giving mad quotes. Others are not. A decent broker will get a competitive quote no matter what car you have.

stedeb

mickeyk wrote: »

This is a bit of a myth. Some companies are loading older cars and giving mad quotes. Others are not. A decent broker will get a competitive quote no matter what car you have.

This year mine only went up 60 quid so I was lucky I suppose .

stedeb

mickeyk wrote: »

This is a bit of a myth. Some companies are loading older cars and giving mad quotes. Others are not. A decent broker will get a competitive quote no matter what car you have.

Had it in 3 times and they realigned wheels swapped them about and still nothing they suggest it's the power steering pump maybe a sensor is gone . I'm clueless really when it comes to parts for cars .