Donegal road deaths

TanFlash

Maybe I'm wrong but Donegal just seems to have a higher proportion of deaths than any other county? Is it the roads, weather etc. ?

frozenfrozen

I don't know but it means we get more speed vans here in Clare with next to no road deaths

Rosie Gold

It's a combination of everything. Don't forget too that Donegal has very little public transport, we don't have the likes of Dublin bus or trains up here. We all have to rely on our cars to drive on ****ty roads with no cats eyes and the like. The weather and poor visibility doesn't help either.

One thing I hate up here is that you could have a road which has a 100km speed limit and it just constantly slowing down to let people drive off the main road into small country lanes to get to their houses. It's not like the M50 where you have off ramps. There must be a better way of getting cars off busy, fast roads onto slower roads.

TanFlash

Most of the country is rural, Wexford has loads of small tight roads too

madalig12

Speeding has a lot to do with it, along with some terrible overtaking manovures. I be on the main letterkenny-derry road at least 8 times a week an some of what I see is shocking. Just last week a car passed 3 cars and a lorry into 5 oncoming cars in the dark and it was pouring rain. All it takes is one of those oncoming to not be paying attention and we have another fatality. Hardly a patrol car to be seen on that road either.

Rosie Gold

Donegal also is a very poor county with a lot of older cars. Donegal also gets a lot of traffic from the north who drive more high powered cars who may not have a huge regard for local traffic laws. Just my observations from years of driving up here!

punisher5112

Dash cam invest in one.

These that act extremely dangerous should be reported and taken down a peg or 2.

Rosie Gold

madalig12 wrote: »

Speeding has a lot to do with it, along with some terrible overtaking manovures. I be on the main letterkenny-derry road at least 8 times a week an some of what I see is shocking. Just last week a car passed 3 cars and a lorry into 5 oncoming cars in the dark and it was pouring rain. All it takes is one of those oncoming to not be paying attention and we have another fatality. Hardly a patrol car to be seen on that road either.

That road is shocking but my point above is that a lot of that traffic is more high powered vehicles who don't obey laws. It's not all from the north but it doesn't help.

Rosie Gold

punisher5112 wrote: »

Dash cam invest in one.

These that act extremely dangerous should be reported and taken down a peg or 2.

Not really enforced as that traffic can easily slip over the border in minutes and not be caught.

TanFlash

Rosie Gold wrote:

Not really enforced as that traffic can easily slip over the border in minutes and not be caught.

Extradite them

Amberjack

There's also the seat belt issue, for some unknown reason, the young ones up there don't like wearing them (it mustn't be cool) I was listening to a radio documentary about it recently and they even buy dummy ones to stick in to stop the car alerting you to the fact they're not on.

frozenfrozen

they should count accidents that happen at 3 in the morning with drunk drivers and no seatbelts in donegal as something other than road accidents though because it just ends up being "XX% of crashes are caused by SPEEDING"

well yes, they were speeding, as well as taking a load of speed and ****ing off down a twisty road with no seatbelt......

unkel

Ridiculous speeds for the circumstances, not wearing seatbelts, illegal foreign registered cars, with no NCT, very young drivers with dodgy (named / driving other cars) insurance, having lied to the insurance company or simply having no insurance at all. Driving without a valid (full) driving license. Far more people than there are seats crammed into the car, incompetent (young) drivers driving far, far beyond what they can safely do. Racing each other and "playing chicken". And a lot of them see all this as their hobby. It's their god given right to drive.

And there excuse: "what can we do, we have bad roads, there is no public transport and we have no money"

Fook off. That's valid for pretty much 99.99% of all young people in Ireland (except maybe a few living in Dublin City Centre who can take the bus) who don't go out and kill themselves and others for fun.

And BTW, I don't think alcohol / drugs are major factors typical for road deaths in Donegal, to be fair.

TanFlash

I wonder if RSA rolled out a scheme to give free dash cams (not too dear) to motorists in Donegal just to see if it would promote safer driving. I'm sure that insurers would get onside.

The Backwards Man

fullstop wrote: »

Yeah, and there were more road fatalities in Wexford than Donegal in 2015, so your point is...?

Proportionally, there was, before your stat is shouted when.


I pay no heed, they like to pretend that just because we have problems with road fatalities up here that they aren't replicated all around the country. It's always easier to blame someone else than look at yourself.

biko

Some stats

Figures for fatalities in 2014 & 2015 by county
Cork 19 16
Donegal 9 11
Galway 5 12
Mayo 12 13

http://www.rsa.ie/RSA/Road-Safety/Our-Research/Deaths-injuries-on-Irish-roads/

BeardySi

biko wrote: »

Some stats

Figures for fatalities in 2014 & 2015 by county
Cork 19 16
Donegal 9 11
Galway 5 12
Mayo 12 13

http://www.rsa.ie/RSA/Road-Safety/Our-Research/Deaths-injuries-on-Irish-roads/

Taking the 2015 numbers and the population figures listed on wiki you get...

Cork 1 death per 33887.25
Donegal 1/14432.27
Galway 1/21546
Mayo 1/10032.69

Using 2015's figures the national average would be 1 death per 28848.48

fullstop

Treadhead wrote: »

Taking the 2015 numbers and the population figures listed on wiki you get...

Cork 1 death per 33887.25
Donegal 1/14432.27
Galway 1/21546
Mayo 1/10032.69

Using 2015's figures the national average would be 1 death per 28848.48

I'm off to create a 'Mayo road deaths' thread, brb.

road_high

There was something in the news recently on this and I seem to remember it was co Longford and maybe Monaghan as proportionately the worst death rates by population head.

Cabaal

fullstop wrote: »

I'm off to create a 'Mayo road deaths' thread, brb.

That already happens every year when Mayo County council promote the blessing of the roads in an effort to reduce road deaths.

It's like an episode of father Ted.
Next they'll be sacrificing a goat or something, it's farcical

Biglad

County is riddled with 'boy racers', touchy subject but has to be mentioned. One of the most recent crashes was a game of chicken in which several young ones lost their lives. Unfortunately we only receive the reports after accidents happen, hardly ever is this followed up by what caused it as clearly nobody wants us to know.

Yes we do have poor roads, badly maintained vehicles with little or no lights, lots of diesel spills from Northern cars filling up with cheap diesel in the south and maybe the biggest numbers of elderly driving at dangerously slow speeds which provokes overtaking even there where it shouldn't be done.

It's the 'we are above the law' mentality as mentioned previously with a lot of young drivers choosing bad modifications to old cars thinking they are some hot shot rally driver whilst they have little or no experience. Single or 2 vehicle accidents happening between midnight and 4-5AM...

bingobars

http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/man-dies-in-car-accident-on-country-road-in-donegal-770054.html

Another one today. Always a sad loss.

On the topic I was thinking the same to myself about OPs question, found this thread via search engine.

If you're in the back and beyonds and require medical attention I don't fancy your chances, response time will be awful then you get carted off to some aging low tech, dirty and under staffed facility

Gazzmonkey

Another one in Buncrana tonight.. emergency services are at scene. Heard no other details yet.

Gazzmonkey

Luckly no deaths this time.. but it happened on the same corner as the fatal accident a few days before Christmas.

They might need to review that section of road as there's been crashes on that road before over the years.

It's been a bad Christmas for road accidents this year in general.

bingobars

More tragedy for the County, how is this allowed to happen over and over?

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/these-will-be-very-difficult-days-four-young-men-dead-in-single-vehicle-crash-in-donegal-900559.html

corks finest

Rosie Gold wrote: »

It's a combination of everything. Don't forget too that Donegal has very little public transport, we don't have the likes of Dublin bus or trains up here. We all have to rely on our cars to drive on ****ty roads with no cats eyes and the like. The weather and poor visibility doesn't help either.

One thing I hate up here is that you could have a road which has a 100km speed limit and it just constantly slowing down to let people drive off the main road into small country lanes to get to their houses. It's not like the M50 where you have off ramps. There must be a better way of getting cars off busy, fast roads onto slower roads.

Lived in Derry for 20 year's,so can state from what I've seen from Ballyshannon to Buncrana ( including northern drivers)are off their heads regards speed- constant racing/ taking chances, another nightmare for drivers is Derry to Letterkenny-loopie how drivers speed on that stretch

corks finest

Cabaal wrote: »

fullstop wrote: »

I'm off to create a 'Mayo road deaths' thread, brb.

That already happens every year when Mayo County council promote the blessing of the roads in an effort to reduce road deaths.

It's like an episode of father Ted.
Next they'll be sacrificing a goat or something, it's farcical

If it saves one death does it really matter as long as it works

Guy:Incognito

corks finest wrote: »

If it saves one death does it really matter as long as it works

The only way it can save a death is if someone would have died during the time the road is now closed while they bless it.

Toyotafanboi

Old thread lock, there is a new thread on the subject.