UK Swissport Staff to strike for 48 hours from Dec 23

robyntmorton

Yay for Christmas rush strikes (Sarcasm!)

More than 1500 staff from Swissport, including check-in staff, baggage handlers and cargo handlers to strike for 48 hours from Dec 23.

Reported by Sky, ITV, BBC et al.

http://www.itv.com/news/2016-12-16/airport-workers-to-stage-48-hour-strike-from-december-23/

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-38347283

Locker10a

Oh dear, let's hope this is resolved, does anyone know who handles Aer Lingus at Heathrow??
I'm sure it's Menzies at Gatwick but not sure about Heathrow, anyone know ?

roundymac

Swissport AFAIK. Not very nice carry on.

Locker10a

roundymac wrote: »

Swissport AFAIK. Not very nice carry on.

I thought that I'm due to fly from LHR with EI during this period. Let's see what happens...

goingnowhere

Menzies handle most of Aer Lingus in the UK, certainly do Belfast, Heathrow and Gatwick

Locker10a

goingnowhere wrote: »

Menzies handle most of Aer Lingus in the UK, certainly do Belfast, Heathrow and Gatwick

Oh great I'm glad to hear that thanks

rameire

UK airport staff call off 48-hour strike,

for Now the BA strike on Christmas day and St Stephens day is still on.

man98

It's a sad state of affairs when workers decide they have no other option but to go without pay for a few days right before Christmas - the most expensive time of year. I sincrely hope this can be settled in the next few days, but I'm fairly certain there'll be nothing of that sort happening. I expect strikes to spread to other British airlines; handlers; transport workers in the new year. The perfect post-Brexit storm. Go figure!

A Dub in Glasgo

man98 wrote: »

It's a sad state of affairs when workers decide they have no other option but to go without pay for a few days right before Christmas - the most expensive time of year. I sincrely hope this can be settled in the next few days, but I'm fairly certain there'll be nothing of that sort happening. I expect strikes to spread to other British airlines; handlers; transport workers in the new year. The perfect post-Brexit storm. Go figure!

The strike has been called off, see the post above yours

man98

A Dub in Glasgo wrote: »

The strike has been called off, see the post above yours

Cheers, I missed that post. Hopefully BA cabin crew will be able to cut a deal too, though I would imagine the 25th and 26th are probably some of the quietest days of the aviation year for BA and co.

A Dub in Glasgo

So glad it is off, I would imagine there were some people who arranged alternatives to get back to Ireland eg Ferry. Looking at the wind forcast, maybe the flight was always the better option

darlett

man98 wrote: »

It's a sad state of affairs when workers decide they have no other option but to go without pay for a few days right before Christmas - the most expensive time of year. I sincerely hope this can be settled in the next few days, but I'm fairly certain there'll be nothing of that sort happening. I expect strikes to spread to other British airlines; handlers; transport workers in the new year. The perfect post-Brexit storm. Go figure!

It's also sad that they would willfuly ruin peoples lives. They could of course strike anytime of year (couldn't they?), but yeah lets go for that time of year which for lots of people may be their only chance see family and their plans were set to be ruined(Because their loss will be more dramatic and useful? Nice lads.). I'm flying out to see my wife a few hours after I finish work on the 23rd to make the most of time off. Havent seen her in nigh on 3 months and just found out the bombshell a few days ago that my connecting flight in London stood to be cancelled. (Others will be in much longer and more desperate scenarios of course)

Foggy43

man98 wrote: »

I would imagine the 25th and 26th are probably some of the quietest days of the aviation year for BA and co.

Will not be the busiest days but by no means quiet. When it is Thanksgiving in the USA it is the quietest for BA.

Pat Dunne

Its a very sad state of affairs when BA cabin crew staff who joined after 2010 have to resort to strike action in an attempt to obtain a "living wage"

Mr Cruz (BA Chief Excuitive) described the pay in mixed fleet as “competitive”. The airline published figures indicating that full-time staff earn between £21,000 and £27,000 a year.

The complete article makes for sober reading http://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/british-airways-strike-ba-cabin-crew-walkout-no-flights-cancelled-latest-a7484316.html

As an aside, Ryanair newly recruited cabin crew are expected to earn €1400 per month after tax (€16,800 per annum, nett).

Typically, the majority of WFI staff progress to a Ryanair permanent contract after 12 months. Cabin Crew (similar to Pilots) now only work 900 flying hours per annum, which is a 25% reduction in previous flying hours (for the same monthly salary). The average monthly salary in the first 12 months is €1,400 after tax. http://www.dalmac.ie/complete_job_info.html

Customer Service Supervisors (Cabin Crew Supervisors) earn €30,000 per annum.

To my way of thinking that makes for a fairly stark world for new Cabin Crew.

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What range of pay would you believe is fair for new cabin crew?

Locker10a

Vera Lemon Tangerine wrote: »

What range of pay would you believe is fair for new cabin crew?

The living wage

A Dub in Glasgo

Pat Dunne wrote: »

Its a very sad state of affairs when BA cabin crew staff who joined after 2010 have to resort to strike action in an attempt to obtain a "living wage"


The complete article makes for sober reading http://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/british-airways-strike-ba-cabin-crew-walkout-no-flights-cancelled-latest-a7484316.html

The cabin crew make more than the living wage

Pat Dunne

Please bear in mind that the "living wage" in Ireland is €11.50 per hour http://www.livingwage.ie , which based on a 40 hour week is €460 per week, before taxation, PRSI and other state deductions.

In the UK the "living wage" it is set at £8.25, per hour.

These rates a voluntary rates for employers to give to employees, with the "minimum wage" rate set considerably lower in both €9.15 (IRL) and £7.20 (UK).

Certainly wouldn't cover the horse feed bill at Gigginstown Stud for a week.

A Dub in Glasgo

Pat Dunne wrote: »

Please bear in mind that the "living wage in Ireland is €11.50 per hour http://www.livingwage.ie , which based on a 40 hour week is €460 per week, before taxation, PRSI and other state deductions.

In my opinion this should be the basic "start-off wage", not a limit.

Are you saying that British based BA cabin crew should be paid the living wage value from Ireland?

Pat Dunne

A Dub in Glasgo wrote: »

The cabin crew make more than the living wage

Would you be able to live on those salaries? I know I couldn't.

A Dub in Glasgo

No although there are plenty of jobs I would not live on with the wage or salaries offered or even the lifestyle conditions

fr336

It's totally understandable for passengers to feel frustrated at the situation itself, had it come to pass. They are innocent bystanders in a dispute. However it's saddening to see the anger directed at workers in these situations, especially comments like them "willfully ruining people's lives". Jesus you'd think they want all this? It's a race to the bottom for those at the sharp end, and a race to the top for the execs, shareholders etc. This will soon catch up with the majority of people though, then far more people will be going on strike and maybe just maybe will get it into their heads sometimes people have no alternative in terms of their livelihoods and wellbeing.

Locker10a

A Dub in Glasgo wrote: »

Pat Dunne wrote: »

Please bear in mind that the "living wage in Ireland is €11.50 per hour http://www.livingwage.ie , which based on a 40 hour week is €460 per week, before taxation, PRSI and other state deductions.

In my opinion this should be the basic "start-off wage", not a limit.

Are you saying that British based BA cabin crew should be paid the living wage value from Ireland?

No they should be paid as a starter salary the London living wage, as they are required to be based in London, is closer to £9/9.50 per hour

Pat Dunne

A Dub in Glasgo wrote: »

Are you saying that British based BA cabin crew should be paid the living wage value from Ireland?

No, why would I do that when it doesn't apply in that jurisdiction!
Simply posting some additional local information alongside my BA post.