Something that wasn't me

Sugar378

Hi

Fred Swanson

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NUTLEY BOY

For clarity, is it the position that the CCTV evidence is not now available ? If so, that is highly problematical as it means that exculpatory evidence is now lost to you.

Secondly, how can this be broached tactically with AGS given that your source of the intelligence is a member who accessed PULSE ?

I suppose you might try the "it has been brought to my attention by a reliable source that there is information adverse to me on your records that is completely factually incorrect....." approach to open up the issue. Ordinarily, this would be the type of thing that would be perfectly suitable for attention under the Freedom of Information Acts. However, I think that the information held on PULSE would probably lie outside the scope of the FoI Acts.

Would data protection offer any avenue of initial access ? You might speak with the Data Protection Office to see if they have any experience or advice on this. LINK https://www.dataprotection.ie/docs/Home/4.htm

Finally, and generally, if you do find a way to broach this with AGS is there any danger that the unauthorised disclosure of intelligence from PULSE could be traced back to your contact ?

Fred Swanson

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Kablamo!

They will contact you as your application progresses and question you about it.

Sugar378

NUTLEY BOY wrote: »

For clarity, is it the position that the CCTV evidence is not now available ? If so, that is highly problematical as it means that exculpatory evidence is now lost to you.

Secondly, how can this be broached tactically with AGS given that your source of the intelligence is a member who accessed PULSE ?

I suppose you might try the "it has been brought to my attention by a reliable source that there is information adverse to me on your records that is completely factually incorrect....." approach to open up the issue. Ordinarily, this would be the type of thing that would be perfectly suitable for attention under the Freedom of Information Acts. However, I think that the information held on PULSE would probably lie outside the scope of the FoI Acts.

Would data protection offer any avenue of initial access ? You might speak with the Data Protection Office to see if they have any experience or advice on this. LINK https://www.dataprotection.ie/docs/Home/4.htm

Finally, and generally, if you do find a way to broach this with AGS is there any danger that the unauthorised disclosure of intelligence from PULSE could be traced back to your contact ?

I am after googling it just there I can request the information that's on the Pulse system about me so I'm going to go.down that route but I am lost as I was told the cctv is gone and can't prove it's not me so I'm just panicking I won't get the garda over this and but id rather not get in then give my source away and probably cause trouble

Sugar378

Kablamo! wrote: »

They will contact you as your application progresses and question you about it.

So should I admit I know about it and tell him what happened but refuse to give my source?

Sugar378

Fred Swanson wrote: »

There will be a record of who looked up the OP on PULSE.

Are you sure about this?

Fred Swanson

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Fred Swanson

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Sugar378

Sugar378 wrote: »

So should I admit I know about it and tell him what happened but refuse to give my source?

They will be able to see who accessed your PULSE ID.
Your best bet would be to download a data protection access request form ... fill it out for the specific incident in question. It costs €6.35 to get . Once you have that you will be able to open a dispute with the National Vetting Bureau to say that it isn't you.

Kablamo!

Sugar378 wrote: »

So should I admit I know about it and tell him what happened but refuse to give my source?

If your application does progress they will ring you and ask about it. Tell them you don't know what they're talking about, and you weren't in the country. If it wasn't you, you've nothing to worry about. I wouldn't be in a hurry to go drawing attention to it if you're innocent either.

seamus

Sugar378 wrote: »

So should I admit I know about it and tell him what happened but refuse to give my source?

Absolutely not. That is just a whole other rabbit hole full of sh1t that you don't want to go down.

If they ask you about it, then it is all brand new information to you. You're completely unaware that the incident even occurred, never mind the fact that you were named in connection with it.

It was incredibly foolish of your mate to tell you this, never mind look up the record in the first place.

If you want to be able to straighten out the whole story, then as said above fill out a data protection access request. At least then if you're contacted about this incident you don't have to feign ignorance.

TallGlass

Was there any reason you asked in the first place? Just seems a bit of strange thing to ask someone to do.

If you get to the state of meetings with sergeant and inspectors or supers they do your vetting, and will ask about it. To which the answer of playing the IDK card would be down to the person. Best to do as advised, open a request to see your information on Pulse and if there is something there that is questionable go about removing it. No need to mention any names. Failing doing that. There's not many options other than giving up the member who accessed the information. Which is a different can of worms which you wouldn't want to be opening.

You'll have questions then such as them knowing about you asking a member to look you up and investigations etc.. be very messy.

Atari Jaguar

As said above already OP don't mention a word of it, if and when they ask you tell them you certainly weren't in Dublin City at that time and you must've been mistaken for another. 4 years later and still not arrested or questioned they've caught the person who actually did it.

Sleeper12

Fred Swanson wrote:

There will be a record of who looked up the OP on PULSE.

And the dope can be sacked for showing anything on the pulse.
Him looking it up and you seeing it will go against you more than something they never even questioned you about.

they never even need to find out that he knew about it previous even if he applies for the Data protection. Anyone is entitled to apply for the information recorded on them on PULSE.

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