Will they take my trade in?

PANDDDKP

I have my car about 9 months (Qashqai 2010). About 1 month after buying it (privately) I noticed the engine oil was gone, so I topped it up, within a few days the oil was gone again.

Brought it to mechanic, he said the piston rings were shot, and it would cost about 2k to fix. Sickened... Anyways I've been driving it since by topping up the oil.

At this stage I'm fed up with it. It needs a timing belt too. The cnut that sold it to me said the belt was just done but he couldn't find receipt, the service book (all Nissan stamped) showed a service was done so I stupidly believed him. I had no reason not to.. He brought me into his home, met the family etc... Seemed genuine! I rang Nissan UK last week, they said belt was last done 50k ago, so that was the final straw with this car.

I'm going to trade it in with a dealer either before or after Xmas. I wouldn't be able to sell it without being honest, but if I tell them what the problem is, will they even take the car off me?

colm_mcm

Why not just get the required work done. They'll need to change the timing belt if they take the engine apart anyway.

TanFlash

Go and look at trading your car in, they are the professionals , you are not. They price it up and you decide whether to deal or not. Main dealer will probably be trading on down the food chain.

_Brian

PANDDDKP wrote: »

I have my car about 9 months (Qashqai 2010). About 1 month after buying it (privately) I noticed the engine oil was gone, so I topped it up, within a few days the oil was gone again.

Brought it to mechanic, he said the piston rings were shot, and it would cost about 2k to fix. Sickened... Anyways I've been driving it since by topping up the oil.

At this stage I'm fed up with it. It needs a timing belt too. The cnut that sold it to me said the belt was just done but he couldn't find receipt, the service book (all Nissan stamped) showed a service was done so I stupidly believed him. I had no reason not to.. He brought me into his home, met the family etc... Seemed genuine! I rang Nissan UK last week, they said belt was last done 50k ago, so that was the final straw with this car.

I'm going to trade it in with a dealer either before or after Xmas. I wouldn't be able to sell it without being honest, but if I tell them what the problem is, will they even take the car off me?

I guess because the Quashqai is so popular they probably would trade it in but they would be giving next to nothing for it, they'd probably work on the presumption that it needed an engine and value it from there...

Selling it private would be a read bad deal, even thought it was done to you, I wouldnt like to be doing that to anyone.. two wrongs don't ever make a right..

I'd think you'd be better as Colm said, get the work done yourself. You could find that you're happy with it afterwards or at least you'd get a decent trade value, I'd imagine you'd probably gain much more in trade value than the cost of the work.. Or sell it privately when the work is done with receipts showing it done and where it was done..

PANDDDKP

colm_mcm wrote: »

Why not just get the required work done. They'll need to change the timing belt if they take the engine apart anyway.

I hear ya, but I'm just sick of it at this stage, the goodness is gone out of it!
Would it be better to get a 2nd hand engine or get new piston rings done? Also, Indy or dealer? Just curious..

TanFlash

Btw, Qashqai are 100km timing belt interval

colm_mcm

@Tanflash, it shouldn't be up to the garage to diagnose a not very obvious but serious engine fault though. It would be very dishonest to not disclose the fact that the engine is knackered.

SEPT 23 1989

Honesty is the bedrock of the motor trade

colm_mcm

PANDDDKP wrote: »

I hear ya, but I'm just sick of it at this stage, the goodness is gone out of it!
Would it be better to get a 2nd hand engine or get new piston rings done? Also, Indy or dealer? Just curious..

I'd get a second opinion before anything else. I'd be reluctant to pay main dealer rates but on the other hand, if you don't know any good independents capable of correctly diagnosing and repairing then it's a gamble.

kev1.3s

I would bring it back to the guy you bought it off and demand he pay some of the repairs for a start. Just because you bought it private doesn't mean you have no rights.

Eric Cartman

kev1.3s wrote: »

I would bring it back to the guy you bought it off and demand he pay some of the repairs for a start. Just because you bought it private doesn't mean you have no rights.

actually, funnily enough, it does.

colm_mcm

Buying privately means you have no rights.

TanFlash

I'm in main dealer sales for Nissan for 10+ years. It would be up to me to ask the required questions at appraisal time and fully check the car out. Too many shabby setups price from the showroom window or over the phone. Qashqai have serious prep costs when they get older so they normally trade down the chain.

kev1.3s

Eric Cartman wrote: »

actually, funnily enough, it does.

I bought a car that had a serious gearbox problem that upon further investigation was discovered the previous owner knew but didn't disclose, after some serious and heated phone calls he agreed to pay 90% of the bill. You can't deliberately sell something faulty to someone without disclosing it.

Eric Cartman

kev1.3s wrote: »

I bought a car that had a serious gearbox problem that upon further investigation was discovered the previous owner knew but didn't disclose, after some serious and heated phone calls he agreed to pay 90% of the bill. You can't deliberately sell something faulty to someone without disclosing it.

that is true, but unless OP can get proof that the previous owner knew, then you're kind of stuck.

Del2005

kev1.3s wrote: »

I bought a car that had a serious gearbox problem that upon further investigation was discovered the previous owner knew but didn't disclose, after some serious and heated phone calls he agreed to pay 90% of the bill. You can't deliberately sell something faulty to someone without disclosing it.

Yes you can. Theoretically you have protection if the vehicle is dangerously defective but the cost of getting a legal resolution if the seller does not play ball is huge, then you need to try to get it enforced.

PANDDDKP

Eric Cartman wrote: »

that is true, but unless OP can get proof that the previous owner knew, then you're kind of stuck.

I have no proof other than the fact my mechanic said it would be very hard for the previous owner not to know there was a serious problem.

PANDDDKP

TanFlash wrote: »

Btw, Qashqai are 100km timing belt interval

Thanks for letting me know

beechwood55

http://www.consumerhelp.ie/cars-rights-wrong
You rights when you buy privately

You do not have the same consumer rights if you are buying a car from a private seller. Generally, private sales do not come with a warranty so you should ask a mechanic to check the car before you buy it. You should always get the seller’s address or telephone number so that you can contact them if you have problems later on. Always know what to look out for when buying privately. Use our handy downloadable car buyer's checklist (pdf) to help you keep track and make sure you get all the answers you need.

If you buy a car from a private seller and discover a problem, there may be little you can do beyond taking a civil case through the courts. Because of this you should be very careful when buying from a private seller and you really need to be aware of what you’re buying. Remember, a private seller may not have all the answers, so it is important for you to have the car checked by a mechanic.

PANDDDKP

TanFlash wrote: »

I'm in main dealer sales for Nissan for 10+ years. It would be up to me to ask the required questions at appraisal time and fully check the car out. Too many shabby setups price from the showroom window or over the phone. Qashqai have serious prep costs when they get older so they normally trade down the chain.

Where do you work? *cough* :pac:

PANDDDKP

beechwood55 wrote: »

http://www.consumerhelp.ie/cars-rights-wrong
You rights when you buy privately

You do not have the same consumer rights if you are buying a car from a private seller. Generally, private sales do not come with a warranty so you should ask a mechanic to check the car before you buy it. You should always get the seller’s address or telephone number so that you can contact them if you have problems later on. Always know what to look out for when buying privately. Use our handy downloadable car buyer's checklist (pdf) to help you keep track and make sure you get all the answers you need.

If you buy a car from a private seller and discover a problem, there may be little you can do beyond taking a civil case through the courts. Because of this you should be very careful when buying from a private seller and you really need to be aware of what you’re buying. Remember, a private seller may not have all the answers, so it is important for you to have the car checked by a mechanic.

I checked it over as best I could. Everything else on it is sound. Is there a way for the common man to check for worn piston rings when viewing a car?

davo10

Nissan UK? Did you import the car?

PANDDDKP

davo10 wrote: »

Nissan UK? Did you import the car?

Bought it in N. Ireland, so rang the main dealer there.

goochy

Kev . Unfortunately you are wrong. The idea is a private seller is not expected to be an expert on what they sell while a car dealer is. Buying a car privately is no different to buying a sofa privately.
That's the law

Del2005

PANDDDKP wrote: »

I checked it over as best I could. Everything else on it is sound. Is there a way for the common man to check for worn piston rings when viewing a car?

A common man can check for worn piston rings by getting a mechanic to check out the car before they buy. There are usually always symptoms if a car has issues which a good mechanic will be able to spot.

Henry Ford III

A replacement engine might be a better idea?

beechwood55

Did you get it checked by a mechanic before you bought it?

PANDDDKP

beechwood55 wrote: »

Did you get it checked by a mechanic before you bought it?

No, unfortunately.

AMKC

PANDDDKP wrote: »

No, unfortunately.

Just look at it as a lesson learned. That old saying 'live and learn' is another. Always important to have a mechanic or someone who knows about cars and engines to check the car over for you before you buy if you don,t know.
Same for a lot of things in life.

bazz26

PANDDDKP wrote: »

No, unfortunately.

A very costly mistake OP.

9935452

PANDDDKP wrote: »

I checked it over as best I could. Everything else on it is sound. Is there a way for the common man to check for worn piston rings when viewing a car?

If the rings are that worn you should be seeing a good bit of blue smoke coming out the exhaust .
If you open the oil filler cap with the engine running there would be a big blow out of it,

Regarding what the car might be worth , a dealer at home a couple of months back had a 09 one of them for sale a couple of months back for 6550. Assume 3 grands worth of work i couldnt see you geting more than 2 or 3 grand for the car as a trade in
this one is 6 plus vrt
https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/nissan-qashqai-09-10/13697969

My advise is to looks at getting a replacement engine, it might work out being cheaper

goochy

As it was up north . Could dodgy fuel be the cause ?
Hopefully you have not had car trouble like this before . Try and see this as ' your lemon ' you will be telling people about this car in years to come and just let it make you very careful in future. Perhaps only stick to.main dealers

PANDDDKP

goochy wrote: »

As it was up north . Could dodgy fuel be the cause ?
Hopefully you have not had car trouble like this before . Try and see this as ' your lemon ' you will be telling people about this car in years to come and just let it make you very careful in future. Perhaps only stick to.main dealers

Ya could be dodgy fuel. Car was bought just over the border.

I'd trade it in and say nothing,
they are big bigs and should know what they are looking at

9935452

BrownFinger wrote: »

I'd trade it in and say nothing,
they are big bigs and should know what they are looking at

If you do that i wouldnt be expecting much in the line of backup if there is a claim under the warranty