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Newly married

  • 13-12-2016 11:14am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,321 ✭✭✭✭


    As the title suggests, I got married last month, and had been on Jobseeker's Benefit the past year while my hours in work were slashed. I had worked full time up until that point, got a letter in November also to say that my Benefit was running out and I would need to apply for Jobseeker's Allowance if I wished to be considered.

    I have filled in the forms and sent in the necessary documentation today and the guy told me he will get back to me by the end of the week if I am entitled to anything. Obviously seems like something obvious but it has only occurred to me now that because I am married I may not qualify.

    My wife works for the HSE, full time. The payslip I brought in is for 2 weeks as that is how they get paid.

    It read as follows

    Basic Pay Hours, 78 - 1130.62
    Basic Arr. 70.76

    Then the deductions

    PAYE - 31.19
    PRSI - 48.06
    USC - 26.80
    Pension Levy - 19.82
    Pension - 45.43

    To leave her with a net pay of 1030.08 for her 2 weeks.

    That includes a small bit of overtime which would not be regular but how do that look with regards to my own claim? Would her salary alone mean I am not entitled to claim anything?

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



Comments

  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 6,854 Mod ✭✭✭✭mp22




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 985 ✭✭✭Atari Jaguar


    You may not get the full rate. But, may be entitled to a half payment or less.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,758 ✭✭✭eastbono


    First of all the figures you give dont add up gross of 1130 minus the deductions will be far less than 1030E. Im going to assume 1130 is her gross. Going on that figure and not allowing for PRSI or Union deductions and assuming there are only 2 of your then you would get 30E approx per week. If she hasnt already done so...now that you are married she can claim your tax credits which would lessen her tax deductions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,321 ✭✭✭✭StringerBell


    eastbono wrote: »
    First of all the figures you give dont add up gross of 1130 minus the deductions will be far less than 1030E. Im going to assume 1130 is her gross. Going on that figure and not allowing for PRSI or Union deductions and assuming there are only 2 of your then you would get 30E approx per week. If she hasnt already done so...now that you are married she can claim your tax credits which would lessen her tax deductions.

    Her total gross is just over 1200 is it not? Did you miss the 70 overtime maybe?

    Other then that I dunno I literally just wrote what was on her payslip, didn't do the match myself initially but having checked it matches up perfectly

    We have two children also, her claiming my tax credits would mean what though for my own pay? Thanks for the responses

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,758 ✭✭✭eastbono


    Okay... forgot that pension deduction would have been taken off before gross. I am presuming you have a casual claim and are handing in dockets every week. Are you on jobsseekers benefit or allowance. IF you are on benefit then spouses earnings will not affect your payment. If on allowance then her earnings along with yours will be assessed as means against your claim. I am presuming that prior to getting married you werent living together... if you were then what you were in receipt of from social welfare would remain the same. If you are only now living together you need to call into your sw office with recent payslips from spouse so that your means can be reviewed. You will be entitled to at current rates 188 personal rate 29.80 adult dependant and 29.80x2 before any deductions. Hope this makes sense.


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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    eastbono wrote: »
    Okay... forgot that pension deduction would have been taken off before gross. I am presuming you have a casual claim and are handing in dockets every week. Are you on jobsseekers benefit or allowance. IF you are on benefit then spouses earnings will not affect your payment. If on allowance then her earnings along with yours will be assessed as means against your claim. I am presuming that prior to getting married you werent living together... if you were then what you were in receipt of from social welfare would remain the same. If you are only now living together you need to call into your sw office with recent payslips from spouse so that your means can be reviewed. You will be entitled to at current rates 188 personal rate 29.80 adult dependant and 29.80x2 before any deductions. Hope this makes sense.
    He said in his OP that he's moving from JSB to JSA


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,758 ✭✭✭eastbono


    Stheno wrote: »
    He said in his OP that he's moving from JSB to JSA

    Im aware of that I have covered both options for OP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 985 ✭✭✭Atari Jaguar


    eastbono wrote: »
    Im aware of that I have covered both options for OP.

    He's not entitled to adult dependant either bexuase his wife is in full time work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,321 ✭✭✭✭StringerBell


    We moved in together 6 months ago and I had to fill out a change of circumstance form then, with her salary details and stuff. Basically the same form I had to fill in for the transfer from Benefit to Allowance application.

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,758 ✭✭✭eastbono


    He's not entitled to adult dependant either bexuase his wife is in full time work.

    This is incorrect for JSA you get ADA even if your spouse is in employment or self employment... means are assessed from spouses earnings against the OPs claim.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,321 ✭✭✭✭StringerBell


    I should know next week I suppose either way, nothing more to be done....other then divorce of course!

    I will look into transferring my tax credits to her though as it will obviously be more beneficial to the family, I will be working part time for next few years by the looks of it, will be going to college in September so trying to put money aside for that before I have to sign off.

    The advice I was given was to get on to a payment from the DSP as it would help me with getting grants or fees paid but probably won't be any good to me either if I don't qualify for JSA I probably won't qualify for that either I'm guessing so may need to look for more work to keep us going through my course too :)

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,758 ✭✭✭eastbono


    Look into family income supplement as well if you dont qualify for JSA.


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