Sheep mineral bucket

Thomas Drennan

I used ctistalick think that's how it spells from before ram right through to mid may used nuts a month that before lambing had great hardy lambs but at €43 for a 40kg bucket found it all two expensive this year I decide to try this himalayan rock salt sheep don't seem to like it and I was told in a different tread it won't replace the mineral bucket anyone any experience

orm0nd

Thomas Drennan wrote: »

I used ctistalick think that's how it spells from before ram right through to mid may used nuts a month that before lambing had great hardy lambs but at €43 for a 40kg bucket found it all two expensive this year I decide to try this himalayan rock salt sheep don't seem to like it and I was told in a different tread it won't replace the mineral bucket anyone any experience

you'll probarbly get the same reply here you got in the other thread.

Thomas Drennan

I was told of a few big sheep farmers that sware by it , when I looked up up on Google it says it has all 18 trace minerals that are essential for cattle sheep and horses

MayoAreMagic

Wouldn't happen to be selling these buckets would you?!

ganmo

Thomas Drennan wrote: »

I was told of a few big sheep farmers that sware by it , when I looked up up on Google it says it has all 18 trace minerals that are essential for cattle sheep and horses

I'm sure they won't mind if ya share their names with us...

Look until I see a spec of those trace elements they're not worth talking about so until I see that it's just salt and that's all...so not worth the 450 quid per tonne or whatever it is

Green farmer

Often buy mineral lick buckets myself, but Often wondered if instead of giving them a bucket that lasted a week, would I be better off spending the €20 on 3 bags of meal and feeding them one every second day for a week. Don't know if I'd be any better or worse off though !!!

J.O. Farmer

MayoAreMagic wrote: »

Wouldn't happen to be selling these buckets would you?!

I hope not or he's going to either starve or die of salt poisoning from having to resort to eating them himself.
The first thing he said is his sheep won't take them which isn't very good marketing.

razor8

Best advice is to get a blood test done, any vet should be able to do it. put 5 or 6 ewes into a trailer and bring them to practice, should save a callout chare, its costly but only a once off, once its done you know what you up against

i also got a grass mineral analysis done a few years ago and it proved invaluable

MayoAreMagic

J.O. Farmer wrote: »

I hope not or he's going to either starve or die of salt poisoning from having to resort to eating them himself.
The first thing he said is his sheep won't take them which isn't very good marketing.

No I mean selling the crystalyx buckets. Have a read back with this in mind.

J.O. Farmer

MayoAreMagic wrote: »

No I mean selling the crystalyx buckets. Have a read back with this in mind.

He still needs to get a better marketing manager. He said the crystalyx was too expensive though I think I'd prefer to lick them to the salt and there might be some feeding in them for him.

ganmo

J.O. Farmer wrote: »

He still needs to get a better marketing manager. He said the crystalyx was too expensive though I think I'd prefer to lick them to the salt and there might be some feeding in them for him.

The sterling isn't helping them

DMAXMAN

i get blf in ardattin co. carlow to make up buckets for my sheep.they make them upwith higher levels of vitamin b and cobalt for me. they cost about 18 per bucket i think. ewes go mad when they get them first but soon settle down to a reasonable level of consumption

MayoAreMagic

J.O. Farmer wrote: »

He still needs to get a better marketing manager. He said the crystalyx was too expensive though I think I'd prefer to lick them to the salt and there might be some feeding in them for him.

I wouldn't fully agree there. He said it was 43 euro, and then added in that he thought that price was a bit expensive. So why go on about the number of minerals and the fact that the lambs were doing great off them. We heard more about the lick block than the salt... Basically it is great bar the price, and this oul rock salt is no good.

However, is that the price though?
For instance if someone went over to say donedeal and seen these buckets, that seem to be brilliant in every way bar the price, for sale at say 35 euro, they could well go and buy them, thinking they were getting a deal, couldn't they? Furthermore, is it that expensive? If it does all he says then plenty guys might think it isn't. Bit of reverse psychology marketing going on to my mind.

Also, a nice way of knocking the competition, i.e. the cheaper rock salt...

In reality, there is every possibility that with the pound down, people are buying these in bulk in the north and flogging them in the ROI for a profit.

Thomas Drennan

Can't believe the mind set of some people I posted a tread hoping someone might have sound advice on whether rock salt might replace mineral buckets, some people gave their honest opinion while more suggested I might be trying to promote it which is total muck , I bought gust 30kg loose to try it not happy with the results but thought someone might have experienced with it if anyone Google it it reads good and it's a natural mineral not gust a salt .and gust in case you missed the point I said I found the mineral buckets very expensive because sheep scoop them and they don't last long I'm not trying to promote or knocking anything

Thomas Drennan

You seem to have got your wires crossed I said the crystalick mineral I was using I found expensive at €43, but that I had hardy lambs ,i said their was 18 minerals in the himalayan rock salt I did not have any lambs using it as this is the first year to try it and why are you and a few other people lambasted me for asking a question that ye did not read correctly

rangler1

Thomas Drennan wrote: »

Can't believe the mind set of some people I posted a tread hoping someone might have sound advice on whether rock salt might replace mineral buckets, some people gave their honest opinion while more suggested I might be trying to promote it which is total muck , I bought gust 30kg loose to try it not happy with the results but thought someone might have experienced with it if anyone Google it it reads good and it's a natural mineral not gust a salt .and gust in case you missed the point I said I found the mineral buckets very expensive because sheep scoop them and they don't last long I'm not trying to promote or knocking anything

I gave you sound advice, get the mineral content written down and then you'll know exactly whether it's good enough for sheep, otherwise it's just a pig in a poke......if you come up to lambing with the first ewes showing selenium or some other deficiency, it's too late then to treat them or to whinge that google claimed it had all the minerals.
However when you came asking the same question again in a few days you were a bit naive to expect anyone to take you serious.

MayoAreMagic

Thomas Drennan wrote: »

You seem to have got your wires crossed I said the crystalick mineral I was using I found expensive at €43, but that I had hardy lambs ,i said their was 18 minerals in the himalayan rock salt I did not have any lambs using it as this is the first year to try it and why are you and a few other people lambasted me for asking a question that ye did not read correctly

Actually you stated 'I used ctistalick think that's how it spells ', then you posted about 18 minerals but didn't actually indicate which one you were talking about. Reading it wasn't the issue...

As rangler pointed out, you got what you asked for on the other thread. Starting another one would indicate that this wasn't really what you were after.
Also when you google 'crystalick sheep', and all that comes up is Crystalyx...

Thomas Drennan

I simply want to know if anyone had used himalayan salt that's all I was not trying to promote it because I only got it 5 weeks I said I had used crystalick and seem good but I got all this nonsense about trying to promote it and I went on this tread because it was about mineral buckets in the hope someone had used this himalayan salt not because I wanted positive feedback , if someone says their no cobolt or any other essential mineral that fine but people bring out I had a business and I was out to run down the mineral buckets is wrong

davidk1394

Thomas Drennan wrote: »

I simply want to know if anyone had used himalayan salt that's all I was not trying to promote it because I only got it 5 weeks I said I had used crystalick and seem good but I got all this nonsense about trying to promote it and I went on this tread because it was about mineral buckets in the hope someone had used this himalayan salt not because I wanted positive feedback , if someone says their no cobolt or any other essential mineral that fine but people bring out I had a business and I was out to run down the mineral buckets is wrong

Using crystalyx here with ewes once they go out on sweedes. I'd be very slow about moving away from it. Ewes are in top notch condition, healthy lambs and good colostrum and milk. With the rock salt you need to get it tested to see if its an advantage. It'll tell you it has all the trace elements but if it's not in the right form it wont be of any benefit to the ewe. Also the rock salt can vary in quality, because it's mined the veins can vary in quality like coal or rock. So a bag of it could have all sort of variations of quality. With the tub it is a consistent quality and is specialized for an in lamb ewe

tomwaterford

Anything to be said for using a good quality mineral dose and using the money you'd spend on the buckets on meal??

rangler1

davidk1394 wrote: »

Using crystalyx here with ewes once they go out on sweedes. I'd be very slow about moving away from it. Ewes are in top notch condition, healthy lambs and good colostrum and milk. With the rock salt you need to get it tested to see if its an advantage. It'll tell you it has all the trace elements but if it's not in the right form it wont be of any benefit to the ewe. Also the rock salt can vary in quality, because it's mined the veins can vary in quality like coal or rock. So a bag of it could have all sort of variations of quality. With the tub it is a consistent quality and is specialized for an in lamb ewe

No comparison between crystalyx and mineral buckets, crystalyx is a high energy feed, albeit expensive, but there is the labour saving aspect to it.
I'm surprised to see that it's €40 per bucket, so if it's a 25kg bucket, it equates too €800/ton. :eek:

rangler1

tomwaterford wrote: »

Anything to be said for using a good quality mineral dose and using the money you'd spend on the buckets on meal??

Mineral dose doesn't last long...3 - 4 weeks, so if they got that now and meal for the last six weeks of pregnancy, they should be well covered.....

Thomas Drennan

No a 40 kg bucket its more the fact of how quick they get through it but it's good to stand up to weather

rangler1

Thomas Drennan wrote: »

No a 40 kg bucket its more the fact of how quick they get through it but it's good to stand up to weather

Actually did the maths wrong, if it was 25kg bucket it would be 1600/ton but €40 for 40kg bucket equates to €1000 per ton or a euro per kilo, very dear compared to ration at 300/ton

sheepfarmer92

rangler1 wrote: »

Actually did the maths wrong, if it was 25kg bucket it would be 1600/ton but €40 for 40kg bucket equates to €1000 per ton or a euro per kilo, very dear compared to ration at 300/ton

Its 1050 a ton delivered here, use it to keep ewe lambs going over the winter, expensive but i dont think there is any other lick bucket to match it, sheep love it

AnFeirmeoir

Are any of these buckets an actual feed source that could replace or part replace ration or are they all just mineral licks?

MayoAreMagic

AnFeirmeoir wrote: »

Are any of these buckets an actual feed source that could replace or part replace ration or are they all just mineral licks?

Ya there are. I know of one that is a big 30/40kg feedblock. Cant think of the name of it though, but they definately exist

ganmo

AnFeirmeoir wrote: »

Are any of these buckets an actual feed source that could replace or part replace ration or are they all just mineral licks?

If the label declares a protein % and an energy value then there's feed value in it

orm0nd

any body ever have any issues with loose teeth from using these licks?

sheep don't lick as such compared to cattle, & tend to bite/chew at the block

ganmo

orm0nd wrote: »

any body ever have any issues with loose teeth from using these licks?

sheep don't lick as such compared to cattle, & tend to bite/chew at the block

Ya I've heard of it

They kind of scrape it

roosky

AnFeirmeoir wrote:

Are any of these buckets an actual feed source that could replace or part replace ration or are they all just mineral licks?

I think its the crystal licks that are a suposed feed source but i remember someone telling me it works out at over 1000 euro a tonne so you were way better off with the meal