EU Agricultural Grants

Recently its come to my attention that a particular waste product thats left over after processing a certain food, can be processed in a certain way to produce an outstanding animal feed. Its a recent discovery in Asia and not yet being put into practice in Europe.
The product in its unprocessed form is classified as waste and can't legally be sold unless processed again into some other product types which is what I would potentially doing.

My question is for something like this, are there some interesting EU grants or subsidies for processing agricultural waste products? And what other grants would be potentially available in such a business type?

Ive written to the EU commission also today also, hoping for a reply from them soon, but am impatient for answers

Mooooo

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Recently its come to my attention that a particular waste product thats left over after processing a certain food, can be processed in a certain way to produce an outstanding animal feed. Its a recent discovery in Asia and not yet being put into practice in Europe.
The product in its unprocessed form is classified as waste and can't legally be sold unless processed again into some other product types which is what I would potentially doing.

My question is for something like this, are there some interesting EU grants or subsidies for processing agricultural waste products? And what other grants would be potentially available in such a business type?

Ive written to the EU commission also today awlso, hoping for a reply from them soon, but am impatient for answers

I would sat it would be more business type grants not agri as it's a product you will be selling to the agri industry as opposed to farming so enterprise Ireland or some crowd like that would be the place to go

Waffletraktor

It would be Eu enterprise investment/agri investment you require. Try dept of finance/ag/environment for help?

White Clover

What's the product op? I won't tell anyone.... Promise!

Buford T. Justice XIX

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Recently its come to my attention that a particular waste product thats left over after processing a certain food, can be processed in a certain way to produce an outstanding animal feed. Its a recent discovery in Asia and not yet being put into practice in Europe.
The product in its unprocessed form is classified as waste and can't legally be sold unless processed again into some other product types which is what I would potentially doing.

My question is for something like this, are there some interesting EU grants or subsidies for processing agricultural waste products? And what other grants would be potentially available in such a business type?

Ive written to the EU commission also today also, hoping for a reply from them soon, but am impatient for answers

You might enquire from Bord Bia if the processed product complies with their quality assurance schemes. You won't have much of a market if it doesn't.

ganmo

White Clover wrote: »

What's the product op? I won't tell anyone.... Promise!

what ever it is it'll need to be approved as an animal feed.

from i'm told its a long process requiring scientific research done showing that its safe to enter the food chain

ganmo

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

You might enquire from Bord Bia if the processed product complies with their quality assurance schemes. You won't have much of a market if it doesn't.

bb is a bit down the road...anyway their feed quality assurance scheme is a joke

ganmo

http://www.feedmaterialsregister.eu/index.php?page=Register&PHPSESSID=3f7a096bd4857cdb29469ea202f89519

start here

pedigree 6

We ain't going back to using meat and bone meal as animal feed again.

ganmo

pedigree 6 wrote: »

We ain't going back to using meat and bone meal as animal feed again.

fish meal is only allowed on pig\poultry farms with no cattle. and as there are no mills in ireland that don't sell ruminant feed its a no goer

Mooooo

Mooooo wrote: »

I would sat it would be more business type grants not agri as it's a product you will be selling to the agri industry as opposed to farming so enterprise Ireland or some crowd like that would be the place to go

Do you reckon? Considering the waste product is from agricultural I would be hoping it would fall under the agricultural umbrella. But I'll look further

White Clover wrote: »

What's the product op? I won't tell anyone.... Promise!

Ah I'd love to tell you Clover but I need to lock up the European industry first

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

You might enquire from Bord Bia if the processed product complies with their quality assurance schemes. You won't have much of a market if it doesn't.

Its an organic product, that would go through one simple process so the animals would eat it. Its already approved in the most stringent country in the world for this stuff, just done on a tiny tiny scale in the last couple of years. So that isn't going to be a problem.

Thanks for all the replies. I'll be doing this with or without grants etc, but if I can take some of Angela's cash while Im at it, that would also be a good thing!

Water John

Might qualify for SCBI funding. At 3% that is a good capital source.
There is plenty private equity out there also.
Unless grant levels a re fairly high, usually not worth the effort and jumps pursuing it.

ganmo

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Do you reckon? Considering the waste product is from agricultural I would be hoping it would fall under the agricultural umbrella. But I'll look further



Ah I'd love to tell you Clover but I need to lock up the European industry first



Its an organic product, that would go through one simple process so the animals would eat it. Its already approved in the most stringent country in the world for this stuff, just done on a tiny tiny scale in the last couple of years. So that isn't going to be a problem.

Thanks for all the replies. I'll be doing this with or without grants etc, but if I can take some of Angela's cash while Im at it, that would also be a good thing!

I'm thinking its paper...

Muckit

Soon we might b able to say the cattle ate my paperwork sir

ganmo

ganmo wrote: »

I'm thinking its paper...

The link you provided was good. Its already approved in other forms. Its just this particular form hasn't been used before it seems. Other forms of the product have been tested, but there is amazingly minimal research on the benefits over the last 100 years, and mostly on the wrong animals, at least for what I have in mind, while any scientific research that has been done has yielded all positive but inconclusive results.

One of the issues I believe is the animals haven't taken to it, but the particular farmer who tried and tested it over the last few years has come up with a method that the animal loves to eat it now.

. I'm back in Ireland on the 21st for 10 days over Christmas. I'm purchasing a couple kilos of the raw material tomorrow and i'd like to try and treat it in the same way as has been successful and then see if the cows take to it easily. If so I'll go back and secure two months worth of feed for a couple of cows and get the test underway.

TITANIUM.

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Recently its come to my attention that a particular waste product thats left over after processing a certain food, can be processed in a certain way to produce an outstanding animal feed. Its a recent discovery in Asia and not yet being put into practice in Europe.
The product in its unprocessed form is classified as waste and can't legally be sold unless processed again into some other product types which is what I would potentially doing.

My question is for something like this, are there some interesting EU grants or subsidies for processing agricultural waste products? And what other grants would be potentially available in such a business type?

Ive written to the EU commission also today also, hoping for a reply from them soon, but am impatient for answers

Did your tech and imported bubblegum businesses not work out? I didn't bother going any deeper after seeing those first to.

ganmo

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The link you provided was good. Its already approved in other forms. Its just this particular form hasn't been used before it seems. Other forms of the product have been tested, but there is amazingly minimal research on the benefits over the last 100 years, and mostly on the wrong animals, at least for what I have in mind, while any scientific research that has been done has yielded all positive but inconclusive results.

One of the issues I believe is the animals haven't taken to it, but the particular farmer who tried and tested it over the last few years has come up with a method that the animal loves to eat it now.
I'm back in Ireland on the 21st for 10 days over Christmas. I'm purchasing a couple kilos of the raw material tomorrow and i'd like to try and treat it in the same way as has been successful and then see if the cows take to it easily. If so I'll go back and secure two months worth of feed for a couple of cows and get the test underway.

if it's not on the approved feed business you can't feed it to an animal thats going into the food chain.

and you can't import a feed unless you are on the dept's FBO list

TITANIUM.

TITANIUM. wrote: »

Did your tech and imported bubblegum businesses not work out? I didn't bother going any deeper after seeing those first to.

Actually my friend I just obtained 500K of funding for my tech business which is valued at over 2mil euro after 2 years in business. Something I started from scratch. Not bad if I do say so myself.
Not to mention a €4m development project I have almost completed in Norway, also started from scratch. So take the piss all you like but if you want to do your research properly and read the Business Forum for the last few years, you will see that I dont sell bubblegum.

ganmo

ganmo wrote: »

if it's not on the approved feed business you can't feed it to an animal thats going into the food chain.

and you can't import a feed unless you are on the dept's FBO list

Thanks for that. I'll tackle these issues if testing goes well.

freedominacup

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Thanks for that. I'll tackle these issues if testing goes well.

Which part of you can't give unapproved foodstuffs to animals destined for human consumption don't you get?

We don't need another may, might, could, possibly food scare story so if you're going to do this do everyone a favour and do it by the book. None of us need George Lee on the evening news with a farm entrance in shot over his shoulder and a bunch of dept heads in white boiler suits and gas masks wandering around.

freedominacup

freedominacup wrote: »

Which part of you can't give unapproved foodstuffs to animals destined for human consumption don't you get?

We don't need another may, might, could, possibly food scare story so if you're going to do this do everyone a favour and do it by the book. None of us need George Lee on the evening news with a farm entrance in shot over his shoulder and a bunch of dept heads in white boiler suits and gas masks wandering around.

Relax. Obviously I'm going to do it by the book. If the raw material is already approved in other forms and just prepared in a different way Im confident it will be approved when the time comes. Given its organic with no additives my confidence is well placed I believe. I did already mention its approved in the most stringent country in the world already, so no gas masks and boiler suits.

Be nice if people read my posts properly, and my previous posts on boards instead of just coming on to give stick and take the piss.

Mooooo

What's the most stringent country in the world? I'd put the EU countries atop that description. See what they come back to you with but enterprise Ireland is the main one along with the department re guidelines

Mooooo

Mooooo wrote: »

What's the most stringent country in the world? I'd put the EU countries atop that description. See what they come back to you with but enterprise Ireland is the main one along with the department re guidelines

Japan.

I can get the product in Ireland to do the test, just have to do a few more things to get it to the desired state, so there are no issues.

Probably walter john is right about the grants. A lot of hoops not worth the hassle to start with. Perhaps later if its working and can expand.

ganmo

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Relax. Obviously I'm going to do it by the book. If the raw material is already approved in other forms and just prepared in a different way Im confident it will be approved when the time comes. Given its organic with no additives my confidence is well placed I believe. I did already mention its approved in the most stringent country in the world already, so no gas masks and boiler suits.

Be nice if people read my posts properly, and my previous posts on boards instead of just coming on to give stick and take the piss.

Organic registration is a separate process.

pedigree 6

I reckon it's sweets and chocolate.:p

Op as long as you're not here to create hype and look for funding from gullible people on here for the next brand spanking new false thing, I don't care.

A lot of fools were taken in by a certain company promoting free energy in this country and walked away with a lot of money.

Cow eats grass. Cow produces milk.:cool:

Buford T. Justice XIX

Deleted User wrote: »

The link you provided was good. Its already approved in other forms. Its just this particular form hasn't been used before it seems. Other forms of the product have been tested, but there is amazingly minimal research on the benefits over the last 100 years, and mostly on the wrong animals, at least for what I have in mind, while any scientific research that has been done has yielded all positive but inconclusive results.

One of the issues I believe is the animals haven't taken to it, but the particular farmer who tried and tested it over the last few years has come up with a method that the animal loves to eat it now.

. I'm back in Ireland on the 21st for 10 days over Christmas. I'm purchasing a couple kilos of the raw material tomorrow and i'd like to try and treat it in the same way as has been successful and then see if the cows take to it easily. If so I'll go back and secure two months worth of feed for a couple of cows and get the test underway.

MOD NOTE: OP, by your own admission, your product is not approved for feeding in Ireland. As stated in the thread, we do not need another food scare.

Go through the proper channels to get it approved for use before soliciting users.

ganmo

pedigree 6 wrote: »

I reckon it's sweets and chocolate.:p

Op as long as you're not here to create hype and look for funding from gullible people on here for the next brand spanking new false thing, I don't care.

A lot of fools were taken in by a certain company promoting free energy in this country and walked away with a lot of money.

Cow eats grass. Cow produces milk.:cool:

There's a number of things it could be. Because it's Japanese linked I'm now thinking its the by-product of tofu...not very nice smelling stuff.

If someone is going to go through the registration process they're not messing around and they'd have to talk to a lot of highly experienced feed scientists

pedigree 6

ganmo wrote: »

There's a number of things it could be. Because it's Japanese linked I'm now thinking its the by-product of tofu...not very nice smelling stuff.

If someone is going to go through the registration process they're not messing around and they'd have to talk to a lot of highly experienced feed scientists

No offence to the op.

But it's a bit strange that the op comes on a farming forum and wonders how to look/get funding from the E.U for a sure fire dead cert product that will revolutionize farming by turning a waste (free) into a valuable animal feedstock when by their own addmission already run and have set up a 2 million Euro business and has another 4 million euro project in Norway and already has 500k sourced for this current project and they come on here wondering how to get European funding.
Something tells me with that much experience they don't need advise from boardsies on how to get funding for this super duper project.

Correct me if I'm wrong though.
Personally if something looks too good to be true it usually is.

I'm out!

ganmo

You're not the one looking for a job atm

greysides

OP, any one doing even a limited 'taste test' of the product would be expecting the animals eating it to ultimately go for human consumption so the testing would need to be set up carefully.
I think the question you asked in the first post has been answered so I'm closing the thread.