ICBF--new scheme, dna testing

wiggy123

Hi, just checking my herd profile on ICBF website.. I see a cow-with a DNA request beside it.. but never got any notification of it needing to be done, etc.. any one see/get the same?? I emailed ICBF there just..

Farrell

wiggy123 wrote: »

Hi, just checking my herd profile on ICBF website.. I see a cow-with a DNA request beside it.. but never got any notification of it needing to be done, etc.. any one see/get the same?? I emailed ICBF there just..

Was she bought in?

wiggy123

no..homebred, also my top cow--re star ratings

Jb1989

wiggy123 wrote: »

Hi, just checking my herd profile on ICBF website.. I see a cow-with a DNA request beside it.. but never got any notification of it needing to be done, etc.. any one see/get the same?? I emailed ICBF there just..

Just when you mentioned that Ive just remembered they would've liked a DNA sample for my breeding bull I bought 2 years ago. Something similar to yourself I'd say,
Don't think it affects the payment before Christmas as they never sent out the tag especially.
Probly bought in animals with little history.

wiggy123

ah ok..was just wondering that, re would it hold up payments

rangler1

Surely they should be spot checking the DNA of a percentage of animals other wise every animal would be bred by 5 star parentage

TITANIUM.

rangler1 wrote: »

Surely they should be spot checking the DNA of a percentage of animals other wise every animal would be bred by 5 star parentage

Surely the genotyping takes care of that.

rangler1

TITANIUM. wrote: »

Surely the genotyping takes care of that.

forgot that, they obviously don't have that ones geno

Farrell

TITANIUM. wrote: »

Surely the genotyping takes care of that.

On that, does genotyping do anything bar tell the dam & sire they're off?
If for example a scrub bull was used cos he's 4 star, would genotype be able to identify the blood line & traits or will it be "unknown"

wiggy123

supposedly it can tell you any info you require from it..

tanko

Well my top ranked cow is a nine year old cow bred off a scrub bull and her mother was also bred off a scrub bull. She has a replacement index of €188.
She's been genotyped, on icbf it says "genotype bring evaluated" and "no genomic evaluation".
She's down as a five star cow, but will she count as a 5 star cow for the purpose of the scheme?

Farrell

tanko wrote: »

Well my top ranked cow is a nine year old cow bred off a scrub bull and her mother was also bred off a scrub bull. She has a replacement index of €188.
She's been genotyped, on icbf it says "genotype bring evaluated" and "no genomic evaluation".
She's down as a five star cow, but will she count as a 5 star cow for the purpose of the scheme?

Is the born in 2013 or after still in place?

tanko

Farrell wrote: »

Is the born in 2013 or after still in place?

Forgot about that, she wouldn't qualify so.
Say for arguments sake, she was born after 2013 I assume she wouldn't qualify as her ancestry can't be verified.

Farrell

tanko wrote: »

Forgot about that, she wouldn't qualify so.
Say for arguments sake, she was born after 2013 I assume she wouldn't qualify as her ancestry can't be verified.

Don't know much on the scheme, but was in a conversation where a planner mentioned that your eligibles for the scheme had to be born from 2013 & be genomic tested 4/5 star.

tanko

Farrell wrote: »

Don't know much on the scheme, but was in a conversation where a planner mentioned that your eligibles for the scheme had to be born from 2013 & be genomic tested 4/5 star.

Yeah, you're right. Are you not in the genomics scheme?

Farrell

tanko wrote: »

Yeah, you're right. Are you not in the genomics scheme?

Pulled out, numbers was going to be an issue & since pulling out, I've culled all the then 4&5 star cows

tanko

Farrell wrote: »

Is the born in 2013 or after still in place?

When I think about it, was the 2013 age limit not dropped so that cows of any age qualify now.

wiggy123

emailed icbf--they replied today..dna test-was done throught the Aberdeen angus association(I have no record of that)asked when was this..said sent 2013... I cannot remember nought!

whelan2

wiggy123 wrote: »

emailed icbf--they replied today..dna test-was done throught the Aberdeen angus association(I have no record of that)asked when was this..said sent 2013... I cannot remember nought!

Yes we did hair samples then

limo_100

Farrell wrote: »

Pulled out, numbers was going to be an issue & since pulling out, I've culled all the then 4&5 star cows

I think this scheme is the handiest money going at the minute

Farrell

limo_100 wrote: »

I think this scheme is the handiest money going at the minute

Agree if it suits, helping some older farmers that are doing it, main thing is to remind them at AI time, to ask for a bull suitable for the scheme