E-flow strikes again!

Tombo2001

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/i-vomited-when-it-happened-man-has-car-seized-due-to-owing-16k-in-toll-charges-35276184.html

Cuddlesworth

So what did the judge think of his receipts and evidence at the trial? I'm going to assume their is some information that Simon is not being upfront about.

Losty Dublin

"He recently purchased the car from his girlfriend’s, mother’s partner and insists that there were no outstanding charges on the car."

:rolleyes:

You know well that there's large Eurasia sized facts missing from his tale.

Alun

Losty Dublin wrote: »

You know well that there's large Eurasia sized facts missing from his tale.

There always are in these cases. You don't get to the stage of getting your car seized without several acres of rainforest worth of letters dropping through your letterbox, and ignoring them, hoping they'll just go away. Always a side sob-story as well.

coylemj

Your man and his girlfriend's mother were on Joe Duffy, both innocent victims of bureaucratic incompetence - yeah and neither of them got a single letter about the arrears.

So maybe the letters went to the wrong address - oh wait, then how did the sheriff know which house to go to, to seize the car?

Stheno

coylemj wrote: »

The girlfriend's mother was on Joe Duffy, an innocent victim of bureaucratic incompetence - yeah and she didn't get a single letter about the arrears.

Not one?

My OH and I went through a phase last year where due to my debit card being reissued our account went into arrears.

I'm not joking you our volume of post increased 500% over the weeks following.

Though maybe they never changed the address on the car and the post went to the wrong house?

coylemj

Stheno wrote: »

Though maybe they never changed the address on the car and the post went to the wrong house?

So how did the sheriff know where to go to seize the car?

The current and previous owners were (respectively) the guy and his girlfriend's mother - one of them had to be the registered owner during all or most of this saga, why did nobody get a letter demanding payment?

Stheno

coylemj wrote: »

So how did the sheriff know where to go to seize the car?

The current and previous owners were (respectively) the guy and his girlfriend's mother - one of them had to be the registered owner during all or most of this saga, why did nobody get a letter demanding payment?

Fair point

L1011

Did someone think an ownership change reset these arrears like it does for motor tax, I wonder.

Mortpourvelo

Read that story - if someone told me Shergar was really Santy and Elvis was Mrs Claus, I'd have believed that easier than the story in the OP!

Dravokivich

L1011 wrote: »

Did someone think an ownership change reset these arrears like it does for motor tax, I wonder.

Although I'm unsure if that's what happened here, considering I don't recall reading how long they've had the astra. In that scenario, if I bought a car off you, why would I be responsible for any toll fee's you had not paid for, prior to my ownership of the vehicle?

Mortpourvelo

Dravokivich wrote: »

Although I'm unsure if that's what happened here, considering I don't recall reading how long they've had the astra. In that scenario, if I bought a car off you, why would I be responsible for any toll fee's you had not paid for, prior to my ownership of the vehicle?

Because if you had unpaid HP and you bought the car, you're liable for that.

Any car loans - that's you too.

Dravokivich

Mortpourvelo wrote: »

Because if you had unpaid HP and you bought the car, you're liable for that.

Any car loans - that's you too.

But that's not what happened here.

coylemj

If the girlfriend's mother had bought it from someone who sold the car with a string of unpaid tolls, they had plenty of opportunity to say that to the Indo and/or Joe Duffy, they didn't. Moreover, the guy insisted that there was no tolls outstanding when he bought the car from her.

maximoose

Definitely more to this lad's story than in the article.

Dravokivich wrote: »

In that scenario, if I bought a car off you, why would I be responsible for any toll fee's you had not paid for, prior to my ownership of the vehicle?

I deal with E-Flow regularly for fines relating to previous owners, if you can provide proof of transfer of ownership predating the fines they pursue the previous owner.

Mortpourvelo wrote:

]Because if you had unpaid HP and you bought the car, you're liable for that.

Any car loans - that's you too.

Not quite true, you wouldn't be legally liable for any uncleared finance...but you wouldn't own the car though and ponying up yourself might be the only option to hang on to it.

Cuddlesworth

maximoose wrote: »

Definitely more to this lad's story than in the article.

My theory would be,

Care is owned by him and registered to the wrong address.
Multiple trips/fines are racked up on the M50.
He doesn't pay his motor tax, does the old sell and buy the car trick to clear the tax owed.
Eflow bills then land on his doorstep.
Ignores them, ignores the court summons.
Goes to the "Joe" with a sob story after the sheriff takes the car.

lawlolawl

I actually listened to this guy when he was on Liveline.

He hemmed and hawed through the entire story like he didn't want to give up too much detail lest he reveal whatever bull**** scam he was trying to pull.

schemingbohemia

Should Thread title not be changed to Idiot gets caught?

Mortpourvelo

schemingbohemia wrote: »

Should Thread title not be changed to Idiot gets caught?

If there's no character limit, go with:

"Idiot got caught and tried to weasel out of fines by whining to aul Joe"