Mounting Tv oto wall. Indoor arial options?

allycavs

Im mounting new tv on a wall in dining room. Initially wont be running cable to this telly. It will be chromecast and saorview. Ive set of rabbit ears for a portable tv in the bedroom for saorview. works perfect. looking for similar options

For sake of asethetics Im looking for options that will hide aerial.

Could I tape an aerial like this to back of tv? Does this aerial need power or is it just normal coax lead (like rabit ears).

http://www.argos.ie/static/Product/partNumber/5655326/Trail/searchtext%3EAERIAL.htm

Or could i run a coax into a close enough adjacent cupboard unit where rabbit ears could be hidden behind a door pretty much at ground level?
The rabbit ears dont really pick up the stations in this room. signal is weak down stairs?

Im open to other options too??

winston_1

allycavs wrote: »

Im mounting new tv on a wall in dining room. Initially wont be running cable to this telly. It will be chromecast and saorview. Ive set of rabbit ears for a portable tv in the bedroom for saorview. works perfect. looking for similar options

For sake of asethetics Im looking for options that will hide aerial.

Could I tape an aerial like this to back of tv? Does this aerial need power or is it just normal coax lead (like rabit ears).

http://www.argos.ie/static/Product/partNumber/5655326/Trail/searchtext%3EAERIAL.htm

Or could i run a coax into a close enough adjacent cupboard unit where rabbit ears could be hidden behind a door pretty much at ground level?
The rabbit ears dont really pick up the stations in this room. signal is weak down stairs?

Im open to other options too??

That Argos aerial is a waste of time, money, and electricity. Why? Because it is amplified and amplifiers are designed to overcome the loss on a long run of cable which you don't have on an indoor aerial.

Rabbits ears are VHF aerials for DAB or FM radio. They are not suitable for UHF TV.

Other options? The right way, have an aerial installed on the roof.

Gerry Wicklow

Any powered or boosted indoor aerial is a waste of power and money. The fact that an indoor aerial works in the bedroom does not mean it can work elsewhere. Indoor aerials are not recommended because they are prone to interference and disturbance, even just by someone walking around the room. If you really must use an indoor aerial try to get it as near a window facing your local transmitter. See here for details

allycavs

Ok thanks guys. Ya im awear that they are prone to interference. just wonder if there is realistic least evasive option

Keith186

allycavs wrote: »

Ok thanks guys. Ya im awear that they are prone to interference. just wonder if there is realistic least evasive option

I got one of these indoor aerials (link below) which I use in my kitchen area. It's just ok to be honest, works about 85/90% of time without interference. Occasionally have to move it as it'll get interference.
Barely watch tv in this room and have a fire stick on it too so it's ok for what I need it for without costing much.

VicTsing Ultra-Thin Amplified Digital HDTV Aerial TV Antenna, 25-Mile Range Indoor HDTV Antenna with 10 FT Long Cable for Digital Freeview and Analog TV Signals, Window Aerial, Optimized Butterfly-Shaped Picture

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01FAPF4DW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_mm-rybKHBG5KH

allycavs

Thanks Keith, Does it need to be on a window or away from any blocking items. Shape wise its perfect . id like to just stick it behind tv on a wall. this may cause a signal block?

Keith186

allycavs wrote: »

Thanks Keith, Does it need to be on a window or away from any blocking items. Shape wise its perfect . id like to just stick it behind tv on a wall. this may cause a signal block?

To be honest it works ok behind the tv for some channels but not for others. Have to find the sweet spot to fix it there permanently but I've been a bit lazy. It definitely works a bit better above or below the tv.

I think they had a white and transparent version too if other of them would suit you better. I'm guessing transparent one on a window would be best if possible.

winston_1

Keith186 wrote: »

I got one of these indoor aerials (link below) which I use in my kitchen area. It's just ok to be honest, works about 85/90% of time without interference. Occasionally have to move it as it'll get interference.
Barely watch tv in this room and have a fire stick on it too so it's ok for what I need it for without costing much.

VicTsing Ultra-Thin Amplified Digital HDTV Aerial TV Antenna, 25-Mile Range Indoor HDTV Antenna with 10 FT Long Cable for Digital Freeview and Analog TV Signals, Window Aerial, Optimized Butterfly-Shaped Picture

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01FAPF4DW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_mm-rybKHBG5KH

As explained by myself post 2 and Gerry Wicklow post 3 powered indoor aerials are a waste of time, money, and electricity.

25 mile range is meaningless, the range depends on the power of the transmitter and the terrain. There are many cases where you would not get 25 miles even with a decent outdoor aerial.

Keith186

winston_1 wrote: »

As explained by myself post 2 and Gerry Wicklow post 3 powered indoor aerials are a waste of time, money, and electricity.

25 mile range is meaningless, the range depends on the power of the transmitter and the terrain. There are many cases where you would not get 25 miles even with a decent outdoor aerial.

This is just a basic aerial, it's not powered.
Obviously a proper outdoor aerial is the best solution but this is just a cheap alternative.

Personally I didn't want to invest much at all in Saorview as there's only a couple of HD channels.

allycavs

Likewise!! this tv willl be mainly used with chromecast but if indoor aerial gives me option of having irish channels then its added bonus.

winston_1

Keith186 wrote: »

This is just a basic aerial, it's not powered.

Really?

This is the description:

VicTsing Ultra-Thin Amplified Digital HDTV Aerial TV Antenna, 25-Mile Range Indoor HDTV Antenna with 10 FT Long Cable for Digital Freeview and Analog TV Signals, Window Aerial, Optimized Butterfly-Shaped Picture.

More here:

【Long Range Signal Booster】The amplifier boosts the antenna with better signal and butterfly pattern optimizes reception. Working frequency: VHF174-240MHz, UHF 470-862MHz.

OK they are lying about HD aerial as there is no such thing. They are lying about range as that depends on so many things. They can't spell analogue. Do you think they are lying about the amplifier as well? You certainly can't have an amplifier without it being powered.

EDIT. Just had a closer look at the Amazon listing. You are right it is not powered.

So it seems they are lying about the amplifier as well!

ratracer

Hi OP,

I'm probably in the same boat as yourself, I have a tv in the kids play room used mostly for Xbox and I wasn't going to put up an aerial for occasional use. I bought this aerial:

https://m.argos.ie/static/Product/partNumber/1070929/Trail/searchtext%3EIndoor+aerial.htm

It's placed behind the tv, which is wall mounted and it receives all the saorview channels perfectly clearly. I don't know or care enough about hd sd etc, I just wanted the tv to recieve a clear picture, this does the job and is hidden from view.

HTH

Gerry Wicklow

ratracer wrote: »

Hi OP,

I'm probably in the same boat as yourself, I have a tv in the kids play room used mostly for Xbox and I wasn't going to put up an aerial for occasional use. I bought this aerial:

https://m.argos.ie/static/Product/partNumber/1070929/Trail/searchtext%3EIndoor+aerial.htm

It's placed behind the tv, which is wall mounted and it receives all the saorview channels perfectly clearly. I don't know or care enough about hd sd etc, I just wanted the tv to recieve a clear picture, this does the job and is hidden from view.

HTH

:eek: Good Gawd! :eek: €45 for a device to waste electricity. A cheapo unpowered one from a Euro shop will probably do just as well.

ratracer

Gerry Wicklow wrote: »

:eek: Good Gawd! :eek: €45 for a device to waste electricity. A cheapo unpowered one from a Euro shop will probably do just as well.

Whatever!! The OP asked for suggestions, I gave him one. It works for me

allycavs

ratracer wrote: »

Whatever!! The OP asked for suggestions, I gave him one. It works for me

Thanks ratracer..much appreciated. I had looked at that already. I think I will try one on amazon. The rabiit ears in my room can pick up in the new room with some manovering. Hoping newer ones will work better as my rabbit ears one of aerials has top snapped off

Digifriendly

On subject of indoor aerials I was in Currys today and noticed quite a few newish type indoor aerials that look very sleek and unconventional. On examining the specs closely I noticed that all had built in amplification some even said up to 42db! But on each box it said they were suitable for 'strong signal' areas. That last sentence says it all. Indoor aerials if they cannot get a decent signal in the first place all the amplification in the world makes little or no difference. It is only if the aerial is right on the 'cliff edge' of decent reception that amplification will make a difference.

Gerry Wicklow

It's simple physics, you cannot amplify a signal if it isn't there. The reason for an amplifier is to overcome the losses in a long cable run between the aerial and receiver. In the majority of cases an indoor aerial is placed within 1m of the receiver.