Understanding Saorview, Freeview, satellite...

summereire

Hi, I'm confused!

Ages since I bought a TV and I notice that they say that they have Freeview and Saorview.

So first question is what do you need to plug in to the tv, is it like the old days where a coat hanger will do the job or do I need something specific?

And the second question is- I know Saorview is for the Irish channels- but if the TV lists Freeview does that mean it can get the UK channels too? And is this through the aerial?

And last question is, what about satellite dishes, will I get more channels with one of those? And does it plug directly into a modern smart tv with freeview and saorview or is a separate box needed? And if another box is needed do they have freeview and saorview too, some seem to?

Thanks!

The Cush

You will require a UHF aerial connected to the TV to receive Saorview.

Freeview, the UK's equivalent of our Saorview terrestrial TV service, is available in certain parts of Ireland if you're with range of a Freeview transmitter in NI or Wales and have a suitable aerial pointing at that transmitter.

Some TVs have built in Free-to-Air (FTA) or Freesat satellite tuners which can be connected to a satellite dish, otherwise a separate satellite receiver is required. Some receivers have combi / Linux Saorview and FTA satellite tuners, they are generally enthusiast receivers and require some knowledge setting them up, a few thread around here discussing them.

There are separate Saorview and Freeview boxes out there, mostly PVRs (recorders).

summereire

Great thanks, so if I get a tv that has saorview, freeview and FTA I'd have them all covered, just need to plug a dish directly in to the tv then? Would I also need an external aeriel? Can the UK channells like BBC be got through the FTA satellite option or is it just with freeview and an aerial?

The Cush wrote: »

You will require a UHF aerial connected to the TV to receive Saorview.

Freeview, the UK's equivalent of our Saorview terrestrial TV service, is available in certain parts of Ireland if you're with range of a Freeview transmitter in NI or Wales and have a suitable aerial pointing at that transmitter.

Some TVs have built in Free-to-Air (FTA) or Freesat satellite tuners which can be connected to a satellite dish, otherwise a separate satellite receiver is required. Some receivers have combi / Linux Saorview and FTA satellite tuners, they are generally enthusiast receivers and require some knowledge setting them up, a few thread around here discussing them.

There are separate Saorview and Freeview boxes out there, mostly PVRs (recorders).

The Cush

summereire wrote: »

so if I get a tv that has saorview, freeview and FTA I'd have them all covered, just need to plug a dish directly in to the tv then? Would I also need an external aeriel? Can the UK channells like BBC be got through the FTA satellite option or is it just with freeview and an aerial?

List of free-to-air channels at 28°E - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_free-to-air_channels_at_28%C2%B0E

Aerial required for Saorview reception, the channels aren't available FTA from that satellite position via the dish.

B.A._Baracus

Hi Summereire,
It can get very confusing at the start. See the biggest thing to clear up everything is to remember that "FreeView" is an English term. Know the way with Soarview we can stick up an aerial and get all the free Irish channels? well in the UK you can stick up an aerial and get all the free UK stations. But of course sticking up an aerial in Ireland is not going to receive those UK channels (out of range) So for the most part forget about FreeView.

To answer your first question, analogue switched to digital. So in the olden days we could hook up a coat hanger and receive Rte1, Rte2, etc. Those days are gone. You need to have a digital receiver box or a compatible soarview tv (aka, compatible tv simply means built in box if you will) So you still need to have an aerial and the cable going in to your compatible tv or soarview digital box. That'll give you all the Irish stations.

As for second question, in order to get the UK stations you need a satellite pointed at Astra 2. This will give you all the free UK stations. Good news is if you have a SKY satellite currently installed you can receive the UK stations. You don't need to spend extra money installing a satellite.


So just to recap:

Soarview - Use an aerial (plus digital box or compatible tv) to receive all the Irish stations.
Freesat - Aka, getting the free UK stations. This is where you use a satellite. If you've got an old Sky Satellite and digital box you can use that to get the uk channels. You can also replace the sky box with an official FreeSat box or unofficial "free to air" box.

summereire

Brilliant thanks

The Cush

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

To answer your first question, analogue switched to digital. So in the olden days we could hook up a coat hanger and receive Rte1, Rte2, etc. Those days are gone.

Not necessarily, there's a pic or two around the terrestrial forum with a wire hanger stuck in the aerial socket, for test purposes, of a TV happily receiving Saorview, not recommended though

winston_1

summereire wrote: »

Brilliant thanks

Not quite. You don't need a satellite, you need a dish. Somewhat different.

imnorobot

winston_1 wrote: »

Not quite. You don't need a satellite, you need a dish. Somewhat different.

Get a life

winston_1

imnorobot wrote: »

Get a life

Not a problem. I have a life.

imnorobot

winston_1 wrote: »

Not a problem. I have a life.

Well get on with it then and stop with your pedantic nitpicking

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057322924&page=3

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057550075/2?

http://www.diynot.com/diy/threads/6mm-swa-to-shed-60m-from-cu.461207/page-2

http://www.diynot.com/diy/threads/downlighters-and-insulation.463040/page-2

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057272611&page=2

Please stop derailing threads
If you don't have anything constructive to add Then Please don't comment at all

imnorobot

summereire wrote: »

Hi, I'm confused!

Ages since I bought a TV and I notice that they say that they have Freeview and Saorview.

So first question is what do you need to plug in to the tv, is it like the old days where a coat hanger will do the job or do I need something specific?

And the second question is- I know Saorview is for the Irish channels- but if the TV lists Freeview does that mean it can get the UK channels too? And is this through the aerial?

And last question is, what about satellite dishes, will I get more channels with one of those? And does it plug directly into a modern smart tv with freeview and saorview or is a separate box needed? And if another box is needed do they have freeview and saorview too, some seem to?

Thanks!

Op you may wish to consider a combo box
satellite and terrestrial tv in one box with 1 remote control
range in price from around €80 for a basic one
you would need a dish and aerial
If you like to record stuff then maybe a triple tuner
Freetv is an Irish company and have good reputation among boards users
or simply check out their videos to get a better idea of what would suit yo before sourcing a box
http://www.freetv.ie/satellite/receivers/linux/

winston_1

imnorobot wrote: »

Well get on with it then and stop with your pedantic nitpicking

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057322924&page=3

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057550075/2?

http://www.diynot.com/diy/threads/6mm-swa-to-shed-60m-from-cu.461207/page-2

http://www.diynot.com/diy/threads/downlighters-and-insulation.463040/page-2

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057272611&page=2

Please stop derailing threads
If you don't have anything constructive to add Then Please don't comment at all

It was constructive. B.A._Baracus gave misleading information and I was constructively correcting him.

summereire

Great thanks. So those linux boxes are able to do the satellite channels attached to a dish, terrestrial channels from uk and ireland attached to an aerial, and access netflix and youtube is that right?

And TVs like this have all of those options without need an extra box (just a dish or aerial), have I got that right? http://www.harveynorman.ie/tvs-headphones/hd-tvs/panasonic-50-led-4k-tv-tx50dx700b.html

imnorobot wrote: »

Op you may wish to consider a combo box
satellite and terrestrial tv in one box with 1 remote control
range in price from around €80 for a basic one
you would need a dish and aerial
If you like to record stuff then maybe a triple tuner
Freetv is an Irish company and have good reputation among boards users
or simply check out their videos to get a better idea of what would suit yo before sourcing a box
http://www.freetv.ie/satellite/receivers/linux/

icdg

winston_1 I know you have a bee in your bonnet about this. I think it's a relatively minor offence, but it's so repeated and seems to annoy so many people that I must now request that you specifically avoid making any comment whatsoever in relation to the correct terminology for a satellite dish. Failure to do so will result in a one week ban for the first offence and a permenant ban after that. If I were you I'd drop the pendantary full stop TBH.

imnorobot - take a warning for backseat moderation

Do not reply to this post.

summereire

Any suggestions to the question at hand much appreciated!

Hibrasil

summereire wrote: »

And TVs like this have all of those options without need an extra box (just a dish or aerial), have I got that right? http://www.harveynorman.ie/tvs-headphones/hd-tvs/panasonic-50-led-4k-tv-tx50dx700b.html

Currys.ie have the Panasonic TX50DX700B listed on their web site with the specification of having a "DVB-T2 Irish Digital Ready Tuner"....the same model is listed on the Saorview website as Saorview approved. To get channels transmitted on Saorview platform (RTE1.....to...UTV Ireland etc) all that is required for good reception is an external UHF Aerial.

I have not seen where it mentions having an internal satellite tuner (that will enable you to receive the Channels broadcast "Free to Air" on satellite (BBC1....to Channel 5 etc). If the Panasonic TX50DX700B does not have an internal tuner that receives satellite transmissions....then you will need am additional Satellite Set TOP Box.

Hope the helps.....maybe someone else clarifies...if not query with Sellers.

summereire

The sales person seemed to think it had all of the above but I couldn't see listed on any of them- are these features standard on modern smart TVs?

stanley1

Looking for an enigma2 based sat receiver with 1 dvb/s2 tuner and 1 dvb/t tuner, any recommendations welcomed, cheapest would be great on limited budget.

TIA

tapfit2004

stanley1 wrote: »

Looking for an enigma2 based sat receiver with 1 dvb/s2 tuner and 1 dvb/t tuner, any recommendations welcomed, cheapest would be great on limited budget.

TIA

Edison osmini. Built in wifi and its a 700mhz chip. I think you'll get one for around €130.

I've put in a few of them and they're bulletproof.

You could go for the 2 x dvb-s tuner version and add a dvb-t usb tuner to give you a 3 tuner box. You could then record one satellite channel while watching another either satellite or saorview channel.

stanley1

Thanks, ordered one from freetv.ie, what image have you been using.

GY A1

stanley1 wrote: »

Thanks, ordered one from freetv.ie, what image have you been using.

Can't beat open vix
Straight forward
And thread here also
http://touch.boards.ie/thread/2057592351/1/#post102078841