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Refusing a course you cannot do?

  • 04-12-2016 9:01pm
    #1
    ShaShaBear
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,528 ✭✭✭


    OH has been pushed rather forcibly onto a HGV course and has recently found out that he cannot do it as he doesn't have the necessary licence or theory test. SW office was called and they said "Sure someone on the course might be able to pull some strings for you". The test center is in Sligo and we live in Monaghan. No suggestion has been made as to who will pay for the test, provisional and travel, never mind how he is meant to circumvent the waiting list which is currently longer than the course! If he takes it, he loses a week which will leave us rather stuck in the mouth of Christmas.
    Can he refuse it?


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  • #2
    Happyilylost
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    ShaShaBear wrote:
    OH has been pushed rather forcibly onto a HGV course and has recently found out that he cannot do it as he doesn't have the necessary licence or theory test. SW office was called and they said "Sure someone on the course might be able to pull some strings for you". The test center is in Sligo and we live in Monaghan. No suggestion has been made as to who will pay for the test, provisional and travel, never mind how he is meant to circumvent the waiting list which is currently longer than the course! If he takes it, he loses a week which will leave us rather stuck in the mouth of Christmas. Can he refuse it?


    Yes.


  • #3
    ShaShaBear
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,528 ✭✭✭ShaShaBear


    Happyilylost wrote: »
    Yes.

    Is he likely to be penalised, would you know? It's obviously a very testy circumstance this close to Xmas with two young kids. The course starts tomorrow and he only found out last Friday morning he was not qualified to do it.


  • #4
    Happyilylost
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,869 ✭✭✭Happyilylost


    ShaShaBear wrote:
    Is he likely to be penalised, would you know? It's obviously a very testy circumstance this close to Xmas with two young kids. The course starts tomorrow and he only found out last Friday morning he was not qualified to do it.


    No he shouldn't be. The course starting on Monday is not ideal. I work in employment services. It looks like very poor placing by the case officer. Possibly attending the course tomorrow might be the best idea. But if he is a poor fit it really comes down to taking this up with the person who placed him there.


  • #5
    ShaShaBear
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,528 ✭✭✭ShaShaBear


    Happyilylost wrote: »
    No he shouldn't be. The course starting on Monday is not ideal. I work in employment services. It looks like very poor placing by the case officer. Possibly attending the course tomorrow might be the best idea. But if he is a poor fit it really comes down to taking this up with the person who placed him there.

    He intends to, unfortunately as we are in a small town they only frequent the SW office once per week and are appointment only. The whole thing seems to have been very poorly constructed and no-one seems to be willing to take responsibility.
    The case officer threatened a cut in his payment because she thought he didn't show up for his appointment with her when in fact he was in the waiting room for over an hour (including 10 minutes prior to the scheduled appointment). He's very skeptical about dealing with her since she clearly had no clue what she was at - he made it clear he had neither a valid licence or in-date theory test for the course and she assured him this would be arranged prior to starting :rolleyes:


  • #6
    m'lady
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    I think my partner did this course recently. Is it for the rigid or the arctic course? The reason I'm asking is as far as I know if it's for the arctic you don't need a theory test once you have your rigid licence, you just need to get your learner permit for the arctic.


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  • #7
    Nomis21
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    If you need theory tests the DSP will pay for them. An article licence was the most useful thing I ever passed in my life. I was never out of work when I was in health and I got to drive to places like Moscow, Athens and Norway as well as driving on Metallica,s European tour. Try to find a way to do this course if you can.


  • #8
    ShaShaBear
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,528 ✭✭✭ShaShaBear


    m'lady wrote: »
    I think my partner did this course recently. Is it for the rigid or the arctic course? The reason I'm asking is as far as I know if it's for the arctic you don't need a theory test once you have your rigid licence, you just need to get your learner permit for the arctic.

    Its for the artic course. He was informed by the NDLS that he needed two theory tests. One for the artic and another one because the one he sat was before September 2014. They also informed him that the earliest he could sit the first needed test was the 18th of January, three weeks before the course ends.


  • #9
    m'lady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,859 ✭✭✭m'lady


    ShaShaBear wrote: »
    Its for the artic course. He was informed by the NDLS that he needed two theory tests. One for the artic and another one because the one he sat was before September 2014. They also informed him that the earliest he could sit the first needed test was the 18th of January, three weeks before the course ends.


    I'm not too sure on the whole thing to be honest.. I didn't think two theory tests would be needed, but I could be way off!
    Did he go in today or refuse it?


  • #10
    endacl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,412 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Nomis21 wrote: »
    If you need theory tests the DSP will pay for them. An article licence was the most useful thing I ever passed in my life. I was never out of work when I was in health and I got to drive to places like Moscow, Athens and Norway as well as driving on Metallica,s European tour. Try to find a way to do this course if you can.

    Sounds like fun. For a young, single man without two small kids.


  • #11
    ShaShaBear
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,528 ✭✭✭ShaShaBear


    He went in with the intent of doing then the courtesy of explaining why he can't sit it but according to them his place on the course has been secured and SW informed, so tough skittles for him. He can't do the work placement aspect with no licence and they want him to drive to Sligo after Xmas to do driving lessons under the assumption that he passes the theory test that they don't even have a date for yet. He has no clue what's going on now.


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