Nissan Primera revs problem.

Foxycrafty

Hi, hoping someone can shed light on the problem I'm having with my 05 Nissan Primera 1.6 petrol car. When accelerating revs keep going up and can't pick up speed. It takes a while for car to finally pick up speed but again if I try go up a gear it will rev like mad. Just wondering has anyone had same problem and am I talking big money to get fixed before going to garage as money is very tight. I was hoping to sell it in the new year for a smaller car, but not looking good now. 144,000km on engine. Thanks

colm_mcm

Clutch.

CianRyan

Definitely clutch.
They're fairly cheese like in those.

Foxycrafty

Cheers for the quick reply. Roughly how much will it cost to replace?

colm_mcm

€500 I would've thought.

CianRyan

I'm once again just here to confirm what Colm has already said.

Foxycrafty

Yikes. Thanks for your help.

Donal55

Just an aside, but would the OP just check that his rear lights,reverse, indicators fogs and brakes are ALL working. These cars are known for earthing problems and one of the symptoms is a loss of power when one or more rear bulbs are missing or blown especially the brake lights.

The owner should pop over to the nissan primera club, NPOC. org and look at the many threads on this fault.

colm_mcm

OP is getting revs but car isn't moving. That's a mechanical problem between the engine and the wheels and is textbook worn out clutch.

Donal55

colm_mcm wrote: »

OP is getting revs but car isn't moving. That's a mechanical problem between the engine and the wheels and is textbook worn out clutch.

Im not a mechanic and I wont argue with you, however when I had this problem a few years back I just googled 'primera losing power', and I got dozens of remedies mostly associated with electrical problems.
My car was back up and running for the cost of 2 brake bulbs.

CianRyan

Yeah but his car IS revving so it's not loosing power.
OP, take your car to a Nissan garage or an Indi, I find for these jobs the prices aren't miles apart.

Donal55

CianRyan wrote: »

Yeah but his car IS revving so it's not loosing power.
OP, take your car to a Nissan garage or an Indi, I find for these jobs the prices aren't miles apart.

Oh alright so. Maybe I didn't have that problem and maybe all those threads on google relating to this problem aren't there either.
OP just google it.

CianRyan

Donal55 wrote: »

Oh alright so. Maybe I didn't have that problem and maybe all those threads on google relating to this problem aren't there either.
OP just google it.

Well look, I work in a Nissan main dealer and regularly drive these cars with the clutches burned out.

Donal55

CianRyan wrote: »

Well look, I work in a Nissan main dealer and regularly drive these cars with the clutches burned out.

Sound. And Im telling what worked for me when I had a similar problem. And yes I could bring the revs into the red at the time and the fcuking thing still would not move. Two brake lights later it did.

colm_mcm

You could bring the revs up with the car in gear and no foot on the clutch and the car wasn't moving? Then you changed bulbs and it started moving again?

CianRyan

If there was a grounding issue that was stopping the car getting a spark, I doubt the car would even spark.
Nissan's are notorious have grounding issues on rear lamps but that's nothing to do with anything in the engine bay.

I'd love a more detailed description to te problem and solution though, it's sparked an interest.

Donal55

colm_mcm wrote: »

You could bring the revs up with the car in gear and no foot on the clutch and the car wasn't moving? Then you changed bulbs and it started moving again?

Look, again im no mechanic however when I was driving a similar specced car as the op the car would irregularly lose power,and then on other days it would take off again, I could push the foot to the floor and the car wouldn't go over 30 mph i'd say. I could drop a gear or go up a gear and nothing would change. I could bring the revs into the red and nothing improved in relation to speed.

I brought it to a lad I know and he had it on the diagnostic computer and I think a few sensors were changed or fixed. Then the problem reoccured.
In desperation I googled the symptoms:Primera losing power', and dozens of remedies came up. I replaced two rear bulbs and the issue was resolved.

The results are there for yourself to google.

TheChizler

Donal55 wrote: »

I brought it to a lad I know and he had it on the diagnostic computer and I think a few sensors were changed or fixed. Then the problem reoccured.
In desperation I googled the symptoms:Primera losing power', and dozens of remedies came up. I replaced two rear bulbs and the issue was resolved.

The results are there for yourself to google.

How long were you going around with no brake lights? I'm not even sure how working lamps would even address grounding issues, unless there was a break in a wire somewhere else doing something very unexpected. Which would still be broken it sounds like.

colm_mcm

Donal55 wrote: »

Look, again im no mechanic however when I was driving a similar specced car as the op the car would irregularly lose power,and then on other days it would take off again, I could push the foot to the floor and the car wouldn't go over 30 mph i'd say. I could drop a gear or go up a gear and nothing would change. I could bring the revs into the red and nothing improved in relation to speed.

I brought it to a lad I know and he had it on the diagnostic computer and I think a few sensors were changed or fixed. Then the problem reoccured.
In desperation I googled the symptoms:Primera losing power', and dozens of remedies came up. I replaced two rear bulbs and the issue was resolved.

The results are there for yourself to google.

Ok I get you. Your engine was down on power.
The OPs problem is different to yours in that they put the boot down, the revs go up but the speed doesn't. The engine itself isn't down on power, but the clutch isn't getting that power/motion to the wheels.

Donal55

TheChizler wrote: »

How long were you going around with no brake lights? I'm not even sure how working lamps would even address grounding issues, unless there was a break in a wire somewhere else doing something very unexpected. Which would still be broken it sounds like.

Ive just googled it again. From 2008 from a Nissan bulletin there was a change to rear twin filamint bulbs. If I wasnt on this phone Id post the links. I dont know how long the brake lights were gone however when they were replaced the problem ceased.

CianRyan

Donal55 wrote: »

Ive just googled it again. From 2008 from a Nissan bulletin there was a change to rear twin filamint bulbs. If I wasnt on this phone Id post the links. I dont know how long the brake lights were gone however when they were replaced the problem ceased.

It sounds like your car went into limp mode and when he erased the faults it came out again.

Changing bulbs will do for all for your engines power.

colm_mcm

There was deffo an issue with the rear bulbs in them causing various problems.

Donal55

colm_mcm wrote: »

There was deffo an issue with the rear bulbs in them causing various problems.

http://www.rac.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?2914-nissan-primera-acceleration-problem

Donal55

CianRyan wrote: »

It sounds like your car went into limp mode and when he erased the faults it came out again.

Changing bulbs will do for all for your engines power.

http://www.npoc.co.uk/forum/nissan-primera-p12-loss-of-power-when-lights-are_topic59749.html

http://www.carrestorationshop.com/_cars_trucks/q5678636-loss_power_when_using_right_hand

https://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjRo5jRuNvQAhVkOMAKHdJ8BV0QFgghMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.npoc.co.uk%2Fforum%2Fnissan-primera-p12-earthing-issue-with-rear-light_topic35026.html&usg=AFQjCNGLzBZTqPF5sVv8NVOhvDG3mdia1A&bvm=bv.139782543,d.ZGg

http://www.fixya.com/cars/t26304444-nissan_primera_2005_1_8_sx_goes_limp

CianRyan

Well that's absolutely wild, I'm genuinely shocked.
I still think it's the clutch for the op as his car does rev.

Special Circumstances

This case is definitely clutch if the description is accurate.

But on the topic of bulb weirdness - Primeras aren't the only ones affected - aren't there a few VAGs where all hell brakes (hurhurhur) loose if a brake bulb is put in a bit wrong, or blows etc?

biko

OP, posts here are guesses based on experiences with other cars.
Take your car to one or two local mechanics to have them confirm and give you quotes.

porsche boy

Donal55 wrote:

Im not a mechanic and I wont argue with you...

Should have left it there.

biko

Back on topic folks, thanks

Ded_Zebra

In the case of the OP it really sounds like the symptoms of a slipping clutch to me. I can't imagine that it'll be particularly expensive in the grand scheme of things on one of those Primeras. It is crappy coming up to christmas though

I would advise to drive the car as gently as possible to minimise the clutch slip. This will help nurse the last little bit of life out of it.

Regarding the wiring issue, that is one of the more bizarre faults I have ever heard of! It makes absolute total sense but I would literally never have managed to diagnose that issue myself Fair play to the first mechanic that worked out that a bad tail light earth was causing an ignition issue!:eek:

rizzodun

Ded_Zebra wrote: »

In the case of the OP it really sounds like the symptoms of a slipping clutch to me. I can't imagine that it'll be particularly expensive in the grand scheme of things on one of those Primeras. It is crappy coming up to christmas though

I would advise to drive the car as gently as possible to minimise the clutch slip. This will help nurse the last little bit of life out of it.

Regarding the wiring issue, that is one of the more bizarre faults I have ever heard of! It makes absolute total sense but I would literally never have managed to diagnose that issue myself Fair play to the first mechanic that worked out that a bad tail light earth was causing an ignition issue!:eek:

In fairness that's how you knew Renault had really gotten their teeth into Nissan...