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Cityjet Superjet training flights

  • 03-12-2016 5:54pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 581 ✭✭✭


    Have noticed on FR24 a lot lately that Cityjet are flat out doing flights from Dublin-Newcastle and Shannon-Newcastle, amongst others, on the superjet. Anyone know if it's crew training/familiarisation or if it's a certification thing for the aircraft etc..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,367 ✭✭✭Negative_G


    Crew training.

    London City Ops are still 12-18 months away at the very earliest. There is a multitude of issues to be sorted out prior to commencing. This coming from an FO on the SSJ.

    A very nice aircraft to fly, or so I am told.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,197 ✭✭✭arubex


    Negative_G wrote: »
    Crew training.

    A very nice aircraft to fly, or so I am told.

    Can it do a Pugachev Cobra? :D

    It's interesting to watch these real-metal training flights when many airline pilots now qualify on a type solely on a simulator; I wonder at what point it would become cheaper for Cityjet to buy a sim?

    I don't even know how much a modern simulator costs.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 4,233 Mod ✭✭✭✭Locker10a


    arubex wrote: »
    Negative_G wrote: »
    Crew training.

    A very nice aircraft to fly, or so I am told.

    Can it do a Pugachev Cobra? :D

    It's interesting to watch these real-metal training flights when many airline pilots now qualify on a type solely on a simulator; I wonder at what point it would become cheaper for Cityjet to buy a sim?

    I don't even know how much a modern simulator costs.
    I think an actual flight in a real aircraft is still a requirment for pilots before they are signed off as competent


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 6,524 Mod ✭✭✭✭Irish Steve


    The more fundamental question is likely to be does a sim even exist at the moment. There may be a Russian language based sim, but one that operates in English, and (more importantly) is acceptable to the EASA regulators will be a horse of a very different complexion.

    The next issue will be that as the aircraft is still being developed, (for things like LCY), that would mean that the sim package would have to be updated and re certified on a regular basis, which will not be a cheap or quick thing to do.

    Realistically, if the deal with the manufacturers was structured correctly, it's probably cheaper at the moment to use the airframes for training, and it will certainly be more effective, no matter who makes it, the sim is never a perfect replication of the aircraft, so doing training in the airframe should mean that the crews don't get any nasty surprises in line operations.

    Shore, if it was easy, everybody would be doin it.😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,785 ✭✭✭Bsal


    There is a SSJ100 Full Flight Simulator Level D certified by EASA in Venice.

    http://www.superjetinternational.com/training-centre/

    Good video



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,729 ✭✭✭martinsvi


    arubex wrote: »
    Can it do a Pugachev Cobra? :D

    It's interesting to watch these real-metal training flights when many airline pilots now qualify on a type solely on a simulator; I wonder at what point it would become cheaper for Cityjet to buy a sim?

    I don't even know how much a modern simulator costs.

    you can only lift your type rating without flying the actual thing IF you've done 500 to 1500 of hours and minimum 100 to 250 sectors on similar CS25 category aircraft. If you are fresh out of CPL/ME/IR training, you will not be able to lift the type rating without 4 or 6 landings in the real thing


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