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Full size spare - 80 Km/hr limit

  • 02-12-2016 9:22pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,769 ✭✭✭


    Had a flat tyre and needed to get Aviva recovery out to fix it - it was stuck on. Wheel is an alloy and comes with a full size replacement, which has a 80km/hr limit - guy changing the wheel said you can drive normal speeds and it's just a CYA by Ford. Replacement has been properly torqued.

    Anyone got info on this?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,499 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    They're usually limited to 80km/h or 50mph aren't they?


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Alun wrote: »
    They're usually limited to 80km/h or 50mph aren't they?

    Mine is


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,520 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Drive around on one for 4 months....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,769 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    Ooops sorry limited to 80 km / hr - still thinking in old money with the 50.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84,762 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    Does it have the yellow sticker on it saying 80kmh? Seems odd if it's a full size one.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,769 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    Does it have the yellow sticker on it saying 80kmh? Seems odd if it's a full size one.

    Apologies it's marked 80 km/ hr


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,520 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Mondeos come with a full size wheel and a smaller tyre I think.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,190 ✭✭✭Mister Jingles


    My two mondeos both came with full sized ones.

    I was told by my local fitter that its fine to carry on as normal with a full sized spare. Manufacturers just put stickers on to cover themselves. Saying that i never did do over 100 km/h when i had mine on a while back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,922 ✭✭✭GM228


    A spare wheel of any size is limited to 80 km/h by law and must be labeled as such, manufacturers don't do it to cover themselves, they are legally required to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,257 ✭✭✭Pete67


    GM228 wrote: »
    A spare wheel of any size is limited to 80 km/h by law and must be labeled as such, manufacturers don't do it to cover themselves, they are legally required to.

    Do you have a source for that? All my cars to date have had full size spare wheels fitted with identical tyres to the road wheels (and without a speed restriction sticker), curious as to why the speed should be limited in this case?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 546 ✭✭✭fleet


    I'd guess it's down to the tire rubber expiring?

    People here are much less to replace a spare tire after X years stowage without use. The rubber may well have hardened or sidewalls cracked.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 619 ✭✭✭Advbrd


    GM228 wrote: »
    A spare wheel of any size is limited to 80 km/h by law and must be labeled as such, manufacturers don't do it to cover themselves, they are legally required to.

    I would have to call nonsense on that. All cars I have owned to date have had full sized regular wheels and tyres as spares. The tyres have been rotated including the spare from new, the spare tyre eventually being the least good tyre as and when tyres are replaced.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,922 ✭✭✭GM228


    I suppose the term "temporary spare wheel" is open to interpretation as it is in relation to a
    tyre or wheel different from that intended to be fitted to any vehicle for normal use, a spare tyre of any size is not generally for normal use and sizes are not specified in the legislation.

    (5) This Regulation does not prohibit the fitting of a temporary use spare tyre or wheel to a passenger vehicle with passenger accommodation for not more than 8 passengers provided the passenger vehicle so fitted is not driven at a speed exceeding 80 kilometres per hour.

    (6) A temporary use spare tyre or wheel referred to in paragraph (5) shall exhibit in a manner prescribed by ECE Regulation No. 64 the following information -

    CAUTION!

    TEMPORARY USE ONLY!

    MAX. 80 km/h!

    REPLACE BY NORMAL WHEEL AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

    DO NOT COVER THIS LABEL IN USE!

    55(2)(b) the use of a temporary use spare tyre or wheel, which complies with ECE Regulation No. 64 on a passenger vehicle with accommodation for not more than 8 passengers, provided the vehicle is driven at a speed not exceeding 80 kilometres per hour

    http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/2003/si/5/made/en/print


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,769 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    Got the puncture fixed this morning, so usual wheel back on. Thanks for the tips folks and apologies for the original misleading title.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,835 ✭✭✭9935452


    GM228 wrote: »
    I suppose the term "temporary spare wheel" is open to interpretation as it is in relation to a
    tyre or wheel different from that intended to be fitted to any vehicle for normal use, a spare tyre of any size is not generally for normal use and sizes are not specified in the legislation.







    http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/2003/si/5/made/en/print


    “temporary use spare tyre or wheel” means a tyre or wheel different from that intended to be fitted to any vehicle for normal use and intended only for temporary use subject to restrictions;

    I was going to disagree with you but i think you are right in the fact it could be open to intepretation.
    To me a full sized spare wheel isnt 'different from that intended to be fitted to any vehicle for normal use'.

    Looking at wheel sizes, would you have to go back to manufacturers recommended sizes and would anything different from these be classed as temporary?
    Would lads who change alloys for different sizes be classed as running temporay use spare wheel?
    Its an interesting one


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