Where to buy a trained sheep dog

cattle man

Looking out for a well trained dog haven't had one up to now just used a quad but sheep number are well up now so I think it would be a worthwhile investment. Anyone know of where to look for one?
Will be all lowland no mountains.

rangler1

cattle man wrote: »

Looking out for a well trained dog haven't had one up to now just used a quad but sheep number are well up now so I think it would be a worthwhile investment. Anyone know of where to look for one?
Will be all lowland no mountains.

done deal ???

https://www.donedeal.ie/all?words=trained%20sheepdogs&sort=publishdate%20desc

Depends what you want to pay I suppose
another link
http://www.joycecountrysheepdogs.ie/

razor8

cattle man wrote: »

Looking out for a well trained dog haven't had one up to now just used a quad but sheep number are well up now so I think it would be a worthwhile investment. Anyone know of where to look for one?
Will be all lowland no mountains.

What area do you live?

cattle man

razor8 wrote: »

What area do you live?

Based in Sligo. Most of what's on donedeal seems to be pups.

razor8

cattle man wrote: »

Based in Sligo. Most of what's on donedeal seems to be pups.

My father trains dogs but has none fully trained at the minute

Will ask if he knows anyone, in ballinamore area

rangler1

cattle man wrote: »

Based in Sligo. Most of what's on donedeal seems to be pups.

The guy that demonstrates the dogs in the ploughing/tullamore show, Eamonn Egan from Taughmaconnnell in Roscommon usually has a few in training. He helped me train a dog ten years ago that really done well after but the last one I bought he couldn't manage,
Nothing wrong with buying a pup either, when you're using dogs for a few years you get to know the carry on of them even at ten weeks.

cattle man

razor8 wrote: »

My father trains dogs but has none fully trained at the minute

Will ask if he knows anyone, in ballinamore area

That would be great if you could.

cattle man

rangler1 wrote: »

The guy that demonstrates the dogs in the ploughing/tullamore show, Eamonn Egan from Taughmaconnnell in Roscommon usually has a few in training. He helped me train a dog ten years ago that really done well after but the last one I bought he couldn't manage,
Nothing wrong with buying a pup either, when you're using dogs for a few years you get to know the carry on of them even at ten weeks.

Thanks rangler. I was talking to eamonn a few weeks ago and he had no trained dogs only some pubs. I don't tink I would be able to train a pub myself as I wouldn't have much experience with a dog.

cattle man

rangler1 wrote: »

The guy that demonstrates the dogs in the ploughing/tullamore show, Eamonn Egan from Taughmaconnnell in Roscommon usually has a few in training. He helped me train a dog ten years ago that really done well after but the last one I bought he couldn't manage,
Nothing wrong with buying a pup either, when you're using dogs for a few years you get to know the carry on of them even at ten weeks.

Would you normally buy a pup and train them yourself rangler ?

rangler1

cattle man wrote: »

Would you normally buy a pup and train them yourself rangler ?

I've been lucky in that they seem to train themselves, even the one that I brought to Eamon ten years ago was good before his training, I thought I might trial her but eamon said she wouldn't cut it.
I'd start with general obedience, sit, stay,etc and then let them with off with the sheep pulling a 20ft rope to both slow the dog down and make her easy caught. I think it's important to build their confidence and if you stop them by catching the rope you don't have to be shouting at them
I wouldn't bring them with the other dogs until they had some idea of what they were doing.
I brought the young dog i have now to eamon, but he couldn't make any good of her, yet she does everything here, she'll round up sheep, load a trailer or fill a race and never bites and she's only eighteen months...that's all you want

orm0nd

have a bitch here that I could'nt just get steady, great for cattle but completely different temperment when she saw sheep, just too anxoius for work

i stayed at her & eventually when she was about 4 years old she came good,
far from the best dog I've had, but will do

my o/h says I've more patience with animals than with people (suppose she's right)

charolais0153

orm0nd wrote: »

have a bitch here that I could'nt just get steady, great for cattle but completely different temperment when she saw sheep, just too anxoius for work

i stayed at her & eventually when she was about 4 years old she came good,
far from the best dog I've had, but will do

my o/h says I've more patience with animals than with people (suppose she's right)

The old lad has no patience at all. ..not with me nor the dog

rangler1

orm0nd wrote: »

have a bitch here that I could'nt just get steady, great for cattle but completely different temperment when she saw sheep, just too anxoius for work

i stayed at her & eventually when she was about 4 years old she came good,
far from the best dog I've had, but will do

my o/h says I've more patience with animals than with people (suppose she's right)

Much better to be trying to hold them back than trying to kick them on

Ard_MC

Sent a young dog a way for training, cost a right bit. When i picked her up she was doin everything he said. But wont listen to me at all. No go back with her as i the condition she came back in was terrible and i let him know.

Before you ask money was up front for training.

I know its in her but dont have the time to spend with her.

razor8

Sometimes it's the owner that needs to be sent away for training not the dog

A lot of farmers forget or use the wrong commands the dogs have been trained with

eorna

Train all my own dogs here. Takes plenty of time and patience but its great to see progress once you know what you are at.
In my opinion there is people who are naturally good at training and dealing with dogs and people who arent.. ( like some lads are better at fixing machinery than others and so on..)

rangler1

Ard_MC wrote: »

Sent a young dog a way for training, cost a right bit. When i picked her up she was doin everything he said. But wont listen to me at all. No go back with her as i the condition she came back in was terrible and i let him know.

Before you ask money was up front for training.

I know its in her but dont have the time to spend with her.

Yea, bought a trained dog for €800, even though she worked for the owner, she wouldn't work here,
Luckily enough he was a bit slow to cash my cheque so I stopped it and dropped her back to him,
Hard to believe they can be so keen with one person and then do nothing when you bring them home, this one hadn't even the interest to go off with my own dogs to gather the sheep

Ard_MC

rangler1 wrote: »

Yea, bought a trained dog for €800, even though she worked for the owner, she wouldn't work here,
Luckily enough he was a bit slow to cash my cheque so I stopped it and dropped her back to him,
Hard to believe they can be so keen with one person and then do nothing when you bring them home, this one hadn't even the interest to go off with my own dogs to gather the sheep

I have 2 others here, trianed myself..different circumstances then that allowed. But one is 13 yrs old and this was her replacement. She will go and single 1 and chase to it drops here. But the day i picked her up she was in a tight space..the more i think about it! Really nice dog but dont know what to do with her now.

tomwaterford

razor8 wrote: »

Sometimes it's the owner that needs to be sent away for training not the dog

A lot of farmers forget or use the wrong commands the dogs have been trained with

I did know of a lad who bought a dog in from Wales and tried for six months or so.....

Before resenting and learning the commands in Welsh

Cran

Ard_MC wrote: »

I have 2 others here, trianed myself..different circumstances then that allowed. But one is 13 yrs old and this was her replacement. She will go and single 1 and chase to it drops here. But the day i picked her up she was in a tight space..the more i think about it! Really nice dog but dont know what to do with her now.

Used to train dogs when young during summer, takes time and some know how. Fella have at the moment was bought trained and cost few bob, but looked at about 10 dogs before buying him. Came from a very well known Wexford dog man now sadly dead, he s 10 now and has paid me back 100 times what he cost.

Have a 2 year old high hopes for just taken while for him to calm down, there now I think.

Ard_MC

Cran wrote: »

Used to train dogs when young during summer, takes time and some know how. Fella have at the moment was bought trained and cost few bob, but looked at about 10 dogs before buying him. Came from a very well known Wexford dog man now sadly dead, he s 10 now and has paid me back 100 times what he cost.

Have a 2 year old high hopes for just taken while for him to calm down, there now I think.

Yeah a good dog is worth its wait in gold. I couldn't be without them. But they need and deserve plenty time. Mines are family pets also and has never been an issue.