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Getting a Petition for Siro in my town?

  • 30-11-2016 9:54pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 477 ✭✭


    Just had a few questions if anyone would know. I was in the local Vodafone store where I live and was talkng with the owner. He was saying to me he has gone to Siro and put a request in for our town to get it. Now that could take a few years to come but my question is, what is a good number of signatures you would need to expedite the process of getting Siro quicker? If I set up either an online a local place where people could sign would that help at all? I was thinking 500-1000 range would help to bring it here quicker.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 256 ✭✭Edups2.0


    Not likely OP I'm afraid. They have a planned rollout and they won't move towns up or down the list. It's all carefully planned out to align with budgets etc. Basically they don't just throw a dart at the map of Ireland and decide that way.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,017 ✭✭✭tsue921i8wljb3


    MrLucidLJ wrote: »
    Just had a few questions if anyone would know. I was in the local Vodafone store where I live and was talkng with the owner. He was saying to me he has gone to Siro and put a request in for our town to get it. Now that could take a few years to come but my question is, what is a good number of signatures you would need to expedite the process of getting Siro quicker? If I set up either an online a local place where people could sign would that help at all? I was thinking 500-1000 range would help to bring it here quicker.

    Not unless the 500 live in adjacent houses preferably the same estate. Even then it would be unlikely to influence them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 477 ✭✭MrLucidLJ


    Edups2.0 wrote: »
    Not likely OP I'm afraid. They have a planned rollout and they won't move towns up or down the list. It's all carefully planned out to align with budgets etc. Basically they don't just throw a dart at the map of Ireland and decide that way.

    Well I know there is planning with everything but wasn't sure what determines if a town gets it before another town. Is it the size of the town what are some of the determining factors for that? Are you on about budgets from government or from Vodafone/ Siro itself?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 256 ✭✭Edups2.0


    MrLucidLJ wrote: »
    Well I know there is planning with everything but wasn't sure what determines if a town gets it before another town. Is it the size of the town what are some of the determining factors for that? Are you on about budgets from government or from Vodafone/ Siro itself?

    That's between ESB and Vodafone. I wouldn't be privy to that information


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 477 ✭✭MrLucidLJ


    Not unless the 500 live in adjacent houses preferably the same estate. Even then it would be unlikely to influence them.

    I was thinking of campaigning around the town and going to talk with people to try and tell them the benefits of getting Siro for themselves and for the town I think 500-1000 households seems a good number to go for.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,017 ✭✭✭tsue921i8wljb3


    MrLucidLJ wrote: »
    I was thinking of campaigning around the town and going to talk with people to try and tell them the benefits of getting Siro for themselves and for the town I think 500-1000 households seems a good number to go for.

    You're most likely wasting your time but it is your time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 477 ✭✭MrLucidLJ


    Edups2.0 wrote: »
    That's between ESB and Vodafone. I wouldn't be privy to that information

    You seemed to know a little about the planning side of things I thought you might have some inside information or have been involved with either companies or processes like this before. I guess there is no harm in trying. I mean I have no idea when or what stage my town is even in. I reckon it will be around 2019-2022 timeframe and thats probably being optimistic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 477 ✭✭MrLucidLJ


    You're most likely wasting your time but it is your time.

    Worth a shot I guess. I thought it would be a good idea and if a company saw that oh 500-1000 want the services and would be willing to pay for it then it would be good revenue for the company.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    MrLucidLJ wrote: »
    I was thinking of campaigning around the town and going to talk with people to try and tell them the benefits of getting Siro for themselves and for the town I think 500-1000 households seems a good number to go for.

    That's small fry to them. Dundalk is just being wired now and it has over 15000 households.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 256 ✭✭Edups2.0


    MrLucidLJ wrote: »
    You seemed to know a little about the planning side of things I thought you might have some inside information or have been involved with either companies or processes like this before. I guess there is no harm in trying. I mean I have no idea when or what stage my town is even in. I reckon it will be around 2019-2022 timeframe and thats probably being optimistic.

    Afraid not I just know that these plans are made well in advance and they are very unlikely to change them. It's hard to say exactly what attracts them. Like Enniscorthy was the pilot for Efibre way back when, you'd surely think they'd pick the likes of Dublin or Cork or whatever.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,017 ✭✭✭tsue921i8wljb3


    MrLucidLJ wrote: »
    Worth a shot I guess. I thought it would be a good idea and if a company saw that oh 500-1000 want the services and would be willing to pay for it then it would be good revenue for the company.

    If you're determined what I would do is try to contact somebody in Siro, a PR person or whatever and explain what you're willing to do. They may agree to help you if they could get some publicity out of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 477 ✭✭MrLucidLJ


    That's small fry to them. Dundalk is just being wired now and it has over 15000 households.

    So do you think it is devoting its resources to the bigger towns then around Ireland first and then as you said go for the small frys? Saying that though Skibereen is similar size to where I live I was wondering why they got it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 477 ✭✭MrLucidLJ


    Edups2.0 wrote: »
    Afraid not I just know that these plans are made well in advance and they are very unlikely to change them. It's hard to say exactly what attracts them. Like Enniscorthy was the pilot for Efibre way back when, you'd surely think they'd pick the likes of Dublin or Cork or whatever.

    I understand that there must be a lot of logicistical elements, thoughts and considerations that go into these things. And what is the population of Enniscorthy and yes for sure you would think they would go for the bigger towns cities and counties first then go for the smaller places after. Unless there mindset is that the bigger places have a few 100mb connections and what to get rural and other places not really sure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 477 ✭✭MrLucidLJ


    If you're determined what I would do is try to contact somebody in Siro, a PR person or whatever and explain what you're willing to do. They may agree to help you if they could get some publicity out of it.

    Thats a good idea man thanks for the advice. I was just interested when the Vodafone guy said he had been in contact with the and requested it because our town like many others need to get it ASAP. And thats a really good idea, maybe use social media as a campaign and posters to promote it they might help as you said because of creating publicity for them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,017 ✭✭✭tsue921i8wljb3


    MrLucidLJ wrote: »
    Thats a good idea man thanks for the advice. I was just interested when the Vodafone guy said he had been in contact with the and requested it because our town like many others need to get it ASAP. And thats a really good idea, maybe use social media as a campaign and posters to promote it they might help as you said because of creating publicity for them.

    It is your best bet I'd say.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 477 ✭✭MrLucidLJ


    It is your best bet I'd say.

    Thank you for the advice. Do you know much about petitions and how they work if you get a certain number does it look better for your case in situations?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,017 ✭✭✭tsue921i8wljb3


    MrLucidLJ wrote: »
    Thank you for the advice. Do you know much about petitions and how they work if you get a certain number does it look better for your case in situations?

    I have no experience of petitions but I'd imagine the more the better. Get local radio, newspaper involved. A real community effort. I'd still start with Siro though to see if they are cooperative.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 93 ✭✭irishfire


    I'd advise you to contact local politicians etc, since the first phase rollout has started to fizzle down things have been, *ahem* "skewed" politically, best chance (if any) would be of you got this pushed through such channels, not any guarantee, in fact a long shot, but the best chance you have of going about such an idea the way things are at the moment


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 477 ✭✭MrLucidLJ


    I have no experience of petitions but I'd imagine the more the better. Get local radio, newspaper involved. A real community effort. I'd still start with Siro though to see if they are cooperative.

    I like the idea of the radio that would be very good exposure as well. And getting other people who are passionate and entusiastic like myself would be good to get the community as you say would be good to get people involved in it. Yes for sure would be defo important to contact them first before I procede.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 477 ✭✭MrLucidLJ


    irishfire wrote: »
    I'd advise you to contact local politicians etc, since the first phase rollout has started to fizzle down things have been, *ahem* "skewed" politically, best chance (if any) would be of you got this pushed through such channels, not any guarantee, in fact a long shot, but the best chance you have of going about such an idea the way things are at the moment

    Thank you for the advice really appreciate it. Thats something I never thought about going to a politician and seeng how that route would go.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,328 ✭✭✭rob808


    MrLucidLJ wrote: »
    Just had a few questions if anyone would know. I was in the local Vodafone store where I live and was talkng with the owner. He was saying to me he has gone to Siro and put a request in for our town to get it. Now that could take a few years to come but my question is, what is a good number of signatures you would need to expedite the process of getting Siro quicker? If I set up either an online a local place where people could sign would that help at all? I was thinking 500-1000 range would help to bring it here quicker.
    The best thing to do is wait for phase 2 which they plan on given FTTH to 300 smaller towns.I think phase 1 of there 50 towns finish at end of 2018 best try get your town on there phase 2 rollout.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 477 ✭✭MrLucidLJ


    rob808 wrote: »
    The best thing to do is wait for phase 2 which they plan on given FTTH to 300 smaller towns.I think phase 1 of there 50 towns finish at end of 2018 best try get your town on there phase 2 rollout.

    Thanks for replying to the thread. Do you know much about the 300 smaller towns that are in the plans for the phase 2 rollout? So another 2 years to finish phase 1 rollout could be 5-6 years easy to finish phase 2 rollout then?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,328 ✭✭✭rob808


    MrLucidLJ wrote: »
    Thanks for replying to the thread. Do you know much about the 300 smaller towns that are in the plans for the phase 2 rollout? So another 2 years to finish phase 1 rollout could be 5-6 years easy to finish phase 2 rollout then?
    There trying to finish 50 towns first,but you can show your interest on there siro website.There Notting on the 300 smaller towns until after the 50 towns are finish.


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