Gas Boiler Flue Location

shaun_mac

Recently bought a house and had a guy around to service the bolier(RGI Cettified). He refused based on the location of the flue and wanted to turn off the gas!
He then tested the flue and readings were very good so he didn't turn the gas off but is reporting the problem to RGI. He recommends the boiler be moved to back of shed(left of photos)

My questions
1. Is he correct, is the install incorrect, too close to rear wall and patio doors?
2. Do these regulations apply to all houses regardless of age or when work was done?
3. Wouldn't a vertical flue solve the issue?

Many thanks for any advice

anthonyos

He is correct

shaun_mac

anyone have any opinions about a vertical flue?
from the manufacturers install instructions it appears thats ok

Dtp1979

shaun_mac wrote: »

anyone have any opinions about a vertical flue?
from the manufacturers install instructions it appears thats ok

I'd have shut the boiler down. I think it's 300mm from an openable window. Plus the wall is half built around the flue. Shocking

anthonyos

And when the door opens its blocking the flue

Dtp1979

anthonyos wrote: »

And when the door opens its blocking the flue

Ah Ye but jaysus we hardly ever use that door.......

shaun_mac

Anybody have any ideas about how to solve this issue?
Vertical flue?

Dtp1979

shaun_mac wrote: »

Anybody have any ideas about how to solve this issue?
Vertical flue?

Take a clearer pic showing more of the building

shaun_mac

Hopefully this helps, Thanks.


https://s16.postimg.org/49q1gohpx/20161206_122723_1.jpg

K.Flyer

Looks like everything is in the way of it going straight up, but with a couple of bends you could get it through the roof.
Out of curiosity, what is that white vertical tube rising up just back from your satellite dish?

shaun_mac

Thanks K.Flyer.
No idea what the white pipe is, it's covered by insulation inside the shed!

Calahonda52

Is mounting the boiler against the alu covered insulation okay?

Dtp1979

K.Flyer wrote: »

Looks like everything is in the way of it going straight up, but with a couple of bends you could get it through the roof.
Out of curiosity, what is that white vertical tube rising up just back from your satellite dish?

I'd bet money it's the sewer vent

K.Flyer

Calahonda52 wrote: »

Is mounting the boiler against the alu covered insulation okay?

Hard to see in the picture just how close it is up to the boiler, I imagine if they got the flue so badly wrong, there could be an issue with it as well.
Whoever goes to it will need to assess all aspects of the installation.

shaun_mac

Thanks guys.
I'm getting some people out to get some quotes/advice.

I have a surveyors report that doesn't raise any issues. Also I have a Engineer's report from when the extension was built (2002) to say it meets Planning and Building Regulations 2001.

Does anyone know if there is anything I can do or do I just have to foot the bill for this?

K.Flyer

14 years and its only being flagged now :eek: .
The boiler manual, if you still have it, will have a page illustrating boiler flue locations and required distances etc.
Also the gas regs documents the same requirements.
I am on my phone, but I could post the image later, unless one of the other lads has it handy.

shaun_mac

I got the boiler manual online and it clearly states the distances required to windows, walls etc But we can see these specs were not followed.

Does anyone know if I have any recourse against either the property survey I got when buying or the Engineers report signing of the extension works in 2002?

Thanks

antoinolachtnai

In principle you might have some recourse, but if the boiler is in 14 years, your time and money would be better spent just sorting it out. A condensing boiler might be expected to last 20 years at most. I think (and you would obviously need to consider whether it would be worth getting legal advice on this) that because two thirds of the life of the boiler install have already been served, the most your claim would amount to would be one-third of the cost of installing a new boiler and it could well turn out to be one-third of the cost of fixing it.

Dtp1979

I still can't get over the fact that the boiler is 14 years old and this has only been spotted now! It must have been serviced 8-10 times at least in those 14 years. What kind of clown doesn't spot this? Jesus the flue is one of the first safety checks I'd do. I risked gettin bitten in the arse by German sheperds the other day just so I could get a close look at a flue

Dtp1979

Dtp1979 wrote: »

I still can't get over the fact that the boiler is 14 years old and this has only been spotted now! It must have been serviced 8-10 times at least in those 14 years. What kind of clown doesn't spot this? Jesus the flue is one of the first safety checks I'd do. I risked gettin bitten in the arse by German sheperds the other day just so I could get a close look at a flue

I wouldn't worry, with their sense of smell i bet the last place they'd choose to bite you is your bum.