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Selling the car with motor tax arrears

  • 30-11-2016 11:51am
    #1
    oneoneeight
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20 ✭


    I'm trying to sell my car, although there is no tax on it since June. Will I be still liable for that tax even after selling it? I know the buyer won't have to pay my arrears, but what about me?


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  • #2
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85,540 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    No you won't be liable.


  • #3
    johnk123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,029 ✭✭✭johnk123


    Not saying I know anything about it, or that I've ever heard of it being done...

    But there was a rumour years ago, that people within the same stable were 'selling' cars to eachother to use this to their advantage...


  • #4
    colm_mcm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,544 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    johnk123 wrote: »
    Not saying I know anything about it, or that I've ever heard of it being done...

    But there was a rumour years ago, that people within the same stable were 'selling' cars to eachother to use this to their advantage...

    The current system is only in since 2013, and yeah people do change ownership to avoid arrears. It's not illegal.
    Driving without tax is the only issue I can see.


  • #5
    oneoneeight
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20 ✭oneoneeight


    johnk123 wrote: »
    Not saying I know anything about it, or that I've ever heard of it being done...

    But there was a rumour years ago, that people within the same stable were 'selling' cars to eachother to use this to their advantage...

    I personally know people that have done it, I'm wondering if that loophole hasn't been fixed.


  • #6
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85,540 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    oneoneeight wrote: »
    I personally know people that have done it, I'm wondering if that loophole hasn't been fixed.

    It's not a loophole, if your using the car while untaxed your fined or car is seized, not using the car there's no fine if you sell it on.


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  • #7
    colm_mcm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,544 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    That's assuming you're caught!

    There was a focus parked in Tesco last night with no tax insurance or nct showing. 2 gardai walked right past the front of it twice in to get the messages.


  • #8
    mgbgt1978
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,252 ✭✭✭mgbgt1978


    As above by Atlantic Dawn. It's not a "Loophole".
    It has been this way since motor tax was first introduced many, many years ago.
    Any arrears expire when ownership is changed.
    Why should 'they' suddenly to decide to change a decades-old system now ?


  • #9
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85,540 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    That's assuming you're caught!

    Yes that's the problem, there needs to be an ANPR network on all major roads and owners of cars found untaxed on these roads heavily fined.


  • #10
    Senecio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 971 ✭✭✭Senecio


    As a prospective buyer how do you take it for a test drive (legally) without tax?


  • #11
    mgbgt1978
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,252 ✭✭✭mgbgt1978


    Legally....you can't.


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  • #12
    goz83
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,035 ✭✭✭goz83


    Senecio wrote: »
    As a prospective buyer how do you take it for a test drive (legally) without tax?

    You arrange for the car to be towed to private land, where you have permission to drive and you do your test drive there, without the need for motor tax. Of course, exactly zero people would do this.


  • #13
    mayway
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 276 ✭✭mayway


    goz83 wrote: »
    You arrange for the car to be towed to private land, where you have permission to drive and you do your test drive there, without the need for motor tax. Of course, exactly zero people would do this.

    I'm guessing less than zero people would actually do this. From looking at these posts it appears that motor tax is practically optional given the non-enforcement. Begs the question why anyone would bother paying it in the first place.


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