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Scientists Say We Have Souls

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,400 ✭✭✭me_irl


    "scientists"

    Links to the sun.

    Okie dokie, nothing to see here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    Not even for definitive proof of life after death will I read that rag


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,709 ✭✭✭✭Mr. CooL ICE


    The other day, you claimed that the Late Late Show was a cultural highlight for Irish people and now you are linking to a Sun article that is talking about people having souls?

    Honestly dude, you're like a poor man's Katie Hopkins


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    me_irl wrote: »
    "scientists"

    Links to the sun.

    Okie dokie, nothing to see here.
    That link is staying blue, but I'm willing to bet they refer to "boffins" somewhere in the piece.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,400 ✭✭✭me_irl


    El Weirdo wrote: »
    That link is staying blue, but I'm willing to bet they refer to "boffins" somewhere in the piece.

    Neither am I.

    I'm sure it's an article of weasel words.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weasel_word


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,732 ✭✭✭weisses


    Not even for definitive proof of life after death will I read that rag

    Now thats a scientific approach


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    weisses wrote: »
    Now thats a scientific approach

    It's empirical, if it's in that paper, it ain't science


  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I got soul but I'm not a soldier.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 968 ✭✭✭railer201


    So much for the 'Rest in Peace' bit. Same **** - different planet ! ;)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,121 ✭✭✭ClovenHoof


    The other day, you claimed that the Late Late Show was a cultural highlight for Irish people and now you are linking to a Sun article that is talking about people having souls?

    Honestly dude, you're like a poor man's Katie Hopkins

    So the scientists in the article are actually employed by the Sun newspaper?

    Fascinating. Never knew this.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    That guy has been saying that for years as I seen videos of him saying the same four or five years back.

    Deepak Chopra usually adopts whatever him and that other Dutch guy, Hurr, say and so expect a new book from that twat soon too.

    I'd like to think we have a soul, but I dislike Chopra so much that I'd I almost prefer if there we didn't than to arrive in the after life and see that smug git swanning about saying he told us so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,316 ✭✭✭darlett


    I'd like to think we have a soul, but I dislike Chopra so much that I'd I almost prefer if there we didn't than to arrive in the after life and see that smug git swanning about saying he told us so.

    Lol! I'd hate to accuse you of not seeing the bigger picture, but I do admire your self destroying levels of stubborn. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    The scientist seems to be distinguished enough (I had to google him), but that quick google also has other scientists saying his making up his own criteria and then saying his theory fits.

    The article says "scientists" as if it's a widely held believe but there's only really two scientists mentioned in the article. There's no follow up on how the researchers proved any of this to be true.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Science will eventually catch up


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 990 ✭✭✭Ted111


    The Sun is one of the principle organs of communication for THE BOFFINS

    If you scoff at, and ignore the Sun then how will you know
    what the Boffins have discovered this week?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,360 ✭✭✭BetsyEllen


    My favourite part of the article:

    During one near-death experience, he claimed he was blocked from entering heaven by a group of laughing angels who smelled of aftershave.

    :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,412 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Candie wrote: »
    I got soul but I'm not a soldier.

    I have two. One on each foot.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,400 ✭✭✭me_irl


    Candie wrote: »
    I got soul but I'm not a soldier.

    I've got ham, but I'm not a hamster.
    I've got hip, but I'm not a hipster.

    Bill Bailey is great :pac:


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,309 Mod ✭✭✭✭mzungu


    Another vision saw him bathed in the aura of an “Asiatic goddess”, whilst he claims a further supernatural encounter made him believe he was a husky dog bounding through the Arctic.

    That sounds deadly. I gotta sign me up for some of this afterlife stuff!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,633 ✭✭✭✭Widdershins


    Even redheads?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,122 ✭✭✭✭Jimmy Bottlehead


    Ted111 wrote: »
    The Sun is one of the principle organs of communication for THE BOFFINS

    If you scoff at, and ignore the Sun then how will you know
    what the Boffins have discovered this week?

    Boffins is a cracking word, to be fair.

    NEERRRRRDS!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,400 ✭✭✭me_irl


    For those who actually clicked, read and already discredited the article. You're the REAL heroes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,477 ✭✭✭✭Knex*


    Candie wrote: »
    I got soul but I'm not a soldier.

    I got soles but I'm not a cobbler.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,387 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    BetsyEllen wrote: »
    My favourite part of the article:

    During one near-death experience, he claimed he was blocked from entering heaven by a group of laughing angels who smelled of aftershave.

    :P

    I need to take some of what he's taken.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,681 ✭✭✭Fleawuss


    Quantum entanglement. A husky bounding through the arctic is also bounding through the bog.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,633 ✭✭✭✭Widdershins


    The scent of LYNX lingers well into the afterlife


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,472 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    I need to take some of what he's taken.

    I believe it was death. You might not want to sample it just yet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,472 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    I was so disappointed when I saw it was Roger Penrose. I actually have some of his books. :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,888 ✭✭✭Atoms for Peace


    me_irl wrote: »
    "scientists"

    Links to the sun.

    Okie dokie, nothing to see here.

    Don't you mean boffins.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭Father Hernandez


    "Oh this could be interesting"

    *Sees the sun quoted*

    Gone....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭The flying mouse


    BetsyEllen wrote: »
    My favourite part of the article:

    During one near-death experience, he claimed he was blocked from entering heaven by a group of laughing angels who smelled of aftershave.

    :P

    They probably had this on

    : Devil's Cut. Item# DevilsCutAftershaveSpalsh. $15.99 ...


    http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/yhst-140657164764325_2448_14801714


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,761 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    Does all this link into what Elon Musk believes - we are living in the matrix which he wants to take the human race out of.

    For all we know we could be living in Westworld...


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,853 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    It's a pity the Sun is the source cause the scientist quoted, Penrose is a very intelligent and well known mathematician (Wolf Prize, Dirac Medal, author of some very good physics books)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 157 ✭✭Randle P. McMurphy


    He's a respected scientist. His theory revolves around his belief that the nature of consciousness suggests a quantum process. His ideas about the human thought process may presently be a minority view in scientific circles, but that does not make him wrong. It's an interesting idea and should not be dismissed just because it's mentioned in an article in an online rag.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,087 ✭✭✭HellSquirrel


    ScumLord wrote: »
    The scientist seems to be distinguished enough (I had to google him), but that quick google also has other scientists saying his making up his own criteria and then saying his theory fits.

    The article says "scientists" as if it's a widely held believe but there's only really two scientists mentioned in the article. There's no follow up on how the researchers proved any of this to be true.

    You're a brave person to delve into the Sun for..."scientific reporting".

    Ignoring that a religious point is not something for scientific investigation, because the two areas are utterly separate, one being science and one being philosophy... Even full-arsed newspapers get the wrong ends of the stick when it comes to reporting on scientific matters (pretty consistently). A half-arsed piece of dross like the Sun..comes out with stuff about souls being scientifically proven. >.>

    Reading up on it in places that aren't the fecking Sun, it's an interesting idea and I'm not going to pretend to understand half of it, even with a science background, because quantum physics ain't my thing. It's got a lot of criticism and making the jump to a religious connection like a soul is absolutely typical Sun garbage. Like science isn't interesting enough without tabloid copywriters ****ing all over it for headlines!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    The article can be found in the Express too, and for you nerds it's here too
    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/01/140116085105.htm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,387 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    biko wrote: »
    The article can be found in the Express too, and for you nerds it's here too
    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/01/140116085105.htm

    The Express and The Sun aside, the abstract simply states that their theory "accomodates" the possibility of the preexistence of consciousness. This is light years away from proving that human beings have souls.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,873 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    They can often seem cold, clinical and pretty much zero craic, but I'm sure they do have plenty of soul, just like the rest of us....

    Anyway,I clicked on the link; I didn't want to just dismiss it as a load of bollocks, just because it is published in The Sun, a display of a close minded attitude.

    Well, after having read the article, I can confirm: it is indeed a load of bollocks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,087 ✭✭✭HellSquirrel


    Arghus wrote: »
    They can often seem cold, clinical and pretty much zero craic, but I'm sure they do have plenty of soul, just like the rest of us....

    Anyway,I clicked on the link; I didn't want to just dismiss it as a load of bollocks, just because it is published in The Sun, a display of a close minded attitude.

    Well, after having read the article, I can confirm: it is indeed a load of bollocks.

    It was. Although I did note that the scientist himself referred to souls, in a small bit of vindication from the Sun. BUT...that's a bit like a scientist saying "well, this new study shows X does various things that might be applicable to testing it as a potential inhibitor of uncontrolled cell multiplication.."

    Sun headline: SCIENTISTS CURE CANCER.


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