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Feeding barriers

  • 29-11-2016 10:30am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 177 ✭✭


    I'm looking to kit out a new slatted unit.I have a price from one sales man.I'm looking to keep my cost down as i will be fitting them my self.What company's are farmers using out there for quality and of course a competitive price as well


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,485 ✭✭✭Keepgrowing


    pat73 wrote: »
    I'm looking to kit out a new slatted unit.I have a price from one sales man.I'm looking to keep my cost down as i will be fitting them my self.What company's are farmers using out there for quality and of course a competitive price as well

    What exactly do you want to fit?
    Straight bar, slanted or self locking?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    Diagonal barriers here. Heavy duty from allenweld Newmarket 220 each before vat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 607 ✭✭✭larthehar


    I got 1 from the local yard, diagonal barrier only with no base, galvanised for 195 plus Vodka An Tonic..
    I heard Condon were good value, can't personally stand over that!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 177 ✭✭pat73


    What exactly do you want to fit?
    Straight bar, slanted or self locking?

    Heavy duty slanted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 177 ✭✭pat73


    Sam Kade wrote: »
    Diagonal barriers here. Heavy duty from allenweld Newmarket 220 each before vat.

    Did that include the timbers under the barrier?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,123 ✭✭✭Who2


    I've moved over to tombstone barriers here. Calves won't and can't jump through, no bullying and no twisting a weanling back out with the ri bs catching everything they can. I think they were only around 200 each, I've another few to get.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,316 ✭✭✭tanko


    Who2 wrote: »
    I've moved over to tombstone barriers here. Calves won't and can't jump through, no bullying and no twisting a weanling back out with the ri bs catching everything they can. I think they were only around 200 each, I've another few to get.

    Do you not end up with less feeding spaces per bay with those compared to diagonal barriers?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,123 ✭✭✭Who2


    tanko wrote: »
    Do you not end up with less feeding spaces per bay with those compared to diagonal barriers?

    No, but I'm basing that on there's only enough room. To squeeze 8 cows to a 16 ft bay and they wouldn't want to be big cows either. If they were light slips of 200 kg weanlings I'd say it might be an issue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23 kun aguero


    Post your photos!

    Looking for inspiration/past experience with different set ups.

    Installed a new slatted tank and was looking to put up feeding barriers soon for the winter.

    We have the standard barriers hung in the existing slatted shed (approx 250 quid each).

    To keep the price in check, was thinking of installing a single tube along the neck line instead on this new tank.

    How do people find these? Any disadvantages?
    Would there be more of a chance of the smaller cows getting bullied?

    Its for housing heifers and cows, with the possibility of younger stock later down the line.

    Thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,396 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    Who2 wrote: »
    I've moved over to tombstone barriers here. Calves won't and can't jump through, no bullying and no twisting a weanling back out with the ri bs catching everything they can. I think they were only around 200 each, I've another few to get.

    Where did you get them?


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,756 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    pat73 wrote: »
    I'm looking to kit out a new slatted unit.I have a price from one sales man.I'm looking to keep my cost down as i will be fitting them my self.What company's are farmers using out there for quality and of course a competitive price as well

    How many have you to do, would you be capable of making them yourself? If putting weanlings in, run a ratchet strap over the top of their necks to stop them jumping through it.

    Any pics of the tombstones Who2?

    Mod Note merged Kun Aguero's thread in here

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    pat73 wrote: »
    Did that include the timbers under the barrier?

    No, just the barrier to go on top of a timber it block stub wall.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    kun aguero wrote: »
    Post your photos!

    Looking for inspiration/past experience with different set ups.

    Installed a new slatted tank and was looking to put up feeding barriers soon for the winter.

    We have the standard barriers hung in the existing slatted shed (approx 250 quid each).

    To keep the price in check, was thinking of installing a single tube along the neck line instead on this new tank.

    How do people find these? Any disadvantages?
    Would there be more of a chance of the smaller cows getting bullied?

    Its for housing heifers and cows, with the possibility of younger stock later down the line.

    Thanks.
    I have all single bars along the feedface. They are adjustable up and down by 4 inches from the middle. Cows and heifers are on the middle and calves on the lower setting.

    I have two problems with them though.

    I have 1 cow (Shergar:rolleyes:) who jumps the bar in the collecting yard if she is left too long and she bends it meaning it has to be replaced. I had to put up a higher bar to stop her messing.

    Some of the smaller weanling heifers can get out under the barrier and head off to the field of spend the night crapping all over the other cattles silage. Or worse, one can be pushed out across the barrier and not be able to get up with the silage outside her stopping her getting up. Diagonal barriers would stop that happening but it only happens every few years that one dies because of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44 teddy 1223


    kun aguero wrote:
    To keep the price in check, was thinking of installing a single tube along the neck line instead on this new tank.

    kun aguero wrote:
    How do people find these? Any disadvantages? Would there be more of a chance of the smaller cows getting bullied?


    I find with the single bar that if your feeding baled silage, that they pull in the silage into the slats compare to the diagonal feed barriers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,135 ✭✭✭kowtow


    Or worse, one can be pushed out across the barrier and not be able to get up with the silage outside her stopping her getting up. Diagonal barriers would stop that happening but it only happens every few years that one dies because of it.

    And of all the ways for a hungry cow to go, that's far from the worst.

    As the OH put it when it nearly happened here... "like one of us being trapped inside a giant lemon cake"


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,756 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    kun aguero wrote: »
    Post your photos!

    Looking for inspiration/past experience with different set ups.

    Installed a new slatted tank and was looking to put up feeding barriers soon for the winter.

    We have the standard barriers hung in the existing slatted shed (approx 250 quid each).

    To keep the price in check, was thinking of installing a single tube along the neck line instead on this new tank.

    How do people find these? Any disadvantages?
    Would there be more of a chance of the smaller cows getting bullied?

    Its for housing heifers and cows, with the possibility of younger stock later down the line.

    Thanks.

    After moving your post in here in return I'll stick up a couple of photos.
    Was in a hurry like yourself a few years back and put up a wire rope, since then I put a strand of electric over it to keep the blondes in. An odd weanling gets pushed out underneath though.
    Pros;

    Quick to put up,
    Cheap, 5 bays approx €250
    Flexible, it won't bend if hit with loader.
    Can be taken down if necessary.

    Cons;
    Scratches the back of the necks.
    Non adjustable.
    It will eventually wear out.
    Needs to be tightened once a year.
    BBS gets pulled in

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    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,018 ✭✭✭L1985


    We went with teemores eng cause it's jourdain barriers. Got other ones previously but these are class.id advise getting one section of locking barriers we just got that in there and it's v handy when u don't want to bring the cattle up to the crush. Wouldn't need it in all sections but good for where we have it-can use it when we need it!! I'll try take pics tomorrow


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,396 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    Priced a few diagonal barriers up today, only need the barrier, concrete wall in already. 230 delivered from a Galway crowd on donedeal the best price I could get.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,721 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    teddy 1223 wrote: »
    I find with the single bar that if your feeding baled silage, that they pull in the silage into the slats compare to the diagonal feed barriers.

    This is a big problem.
    You'll particularly feel how bad it is come time to agitate slurry, we changed from single bar to diagonal barriers and it's much less pulled in.
    Also we feed weanlings meal and it cuts down bullying.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29 JD115m


    We put in five new diagonal barriers from Condon Engineering no base heavy duty top bar of 75mm instead of the usual 60 mm for 225


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23 kun aguero


    Thanks very much.

    Silage getting pulled in is definitely a worry.

    Interesting idea with the wire rope. Very cost effective I like it. Should be in the Guntering thread also!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    kun aguero wrote: »

    Interesting idea with the wire rope. Very cost effective I like it.

    He likes to think he has a big American feedlot!:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    Apologies blue. 36 of this week's journal. I assumed your username came from owning a ford 5000, but it turns out it's because you wear a blue jacket and have 5000 head of Angus !!! Sorry for ever doubting you.

    p.s. love the stetson! :D


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,756 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    Muckit wrote: »
    Apologies blue. 36 of this week's journal. I assumed your username came from owning a ford 5000, but it turns out it's because you wear a blue jacket and have 5000 head of Angus !!! Sorry for ever doubting you.

    p.s. love the stetson! :D

    He's better looking and younger than me, THE LAD IN THE GLASSES THAT IS:D

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/blue5th/6131588792/in/dateposted-public/

    Divide by a 100 and you'd be getting close Muckit.

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    teddy 1223 wrote: »
    I find with the single bar that if your feeding baled silage, that they pull in the silage into the slats compare to the diagonal feed barriers.

    If you're feeding haylage with a straight barrier it's a complete disaster, you could end up losing a bake a week with 30 cows.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 446 ✭✭poor farmer


    L1985 wrote: »
    We went with teemores eng cause it's jourdain barriers. Got other ones previously but these are class.id advise getting one section of locking barriers we just got that in there and it's v handy when u don't want to bring the cattle up to the crush. Wouldn't need it in all sections but good for where we have it-can use it when we need it!! I'll try take pics tomorrow

    +1 on the jourdain. I think the are superior engineering .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,447 ✭✭✭Dunedin


    L1985 wrote: »
    We went with teemores eng cause it's jourdain barriers. Got other ones previously but these are class

    Can I ask what specifically that you like on the jordain barriers. They seem a good bit dearer than others.

    Do you have any jourdain gates, calving gate etc.


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