New car - shopping around dealers

digitaldr

Going to be buying the new Peugeot 3006 - apparently Irish pricing will be announced middle of next week. I have a 2005 petrol CRV Exec 2L 115k miles that I am hoping to get scrappage on. It is worth the bother of shopping around different dealerships? If I went down the country would they be less likely to give me a good deal if I wouldn't be servicing it there? Also would there be any difference between dealerships in the same group?

bazz26

I know this time last year Hyundai were offering great scrappage deals but people were still able to haggle on top of that, obviously there wasn't the same amount once a scrappage deal was included but something else off was better than nothing. Buying down the country could well save you a few hundred euros if it's practical for you to travel. Your biggest problem though is that because it is a new model and most likely has a lot of interest, dealers may be sticky on the price and not offer additional discount. It would probably boil down to how much solid interest they have and what sales targets they have for that model in it's first few months of being on sale.

As for servicing you don't have to get the car serviced from the dealer you buy it from. Any authorised dealer can service it for you, the same goes with getting warranty work carried out.

digitaldr

Thanks for that - sales guy I talked to reckoned they probably would be offering some kind of scrappage deal but couldn't be 100% sure until pricing was announced. I realise I would be free to get it serviced by any authorised dealer but was just wondering if they would be less likely to give me a good deal if it was obvious I wouldn't be coming back to them for servicing. Also would buying down the country mean I couldn't get a D plate?

Cupra280

I was speaking to a motoring journalist about the Peugeot 3008, and how it has progressed way ahead of the previous generation.

As Bazz26 stated, great interest is generated already in this car. And I understand that given the demand in France, that supply in other locations may be very limited.

pilly

digitaldr wrote: »

Thanks for that - sales guy I talked to reckoned they probably would be offering some kind of scrappage deal but couldn't be 100% sure until pricing was announced. I realise I would be free to get it serviced by any authorised dealer but was just wondering if they would be less likely to give me a good deal if it was obvious I wouldn't be coming back to them for servicing. Also would buying down the country mean I couldn't get a D plate?

No, car is registered according to your address. Most main dealers don't vary that much on price if it's a scrappage deal. If it's a trade in then you'd get a better price in Dublin than down the country.

Do a bit of ringing around.

Atlantic Dawn

digitaldr wrote: »

Also would buying down the country mean I couldn't get a D plate?

No you will get a D plate if it's a new car as you will be first registered owner so plate will be based on your home address.

granturismo

digitaldr wrote: »

Thanks for that - sales guy I talked to reckoned they probably would be offering some kind of scrappage deal but couldn't be 100% sure until pricing was announced. I realise I would be free to get it serviced by any authorised dealer but was just wondering if they would be less likely to give me a good deal if it was obvious I wouldn't be coming back to them for servicing. Also would buying down the country mean I couldn't get a D plate?

Your address determines the county reg not where you buy the car.

Forget about servicing the car - sales staff wont take it into account. Do go to several dealers. 2012 was the last time I bought a new car, I went to 3 dealers in two counties, with a trade in and two of them ended up reducing their price three times until one wouldnt match the best offer. Let each of them know 'the cost to change' that the other dealer is offering.

digitaldr

Fingers crossed the Irish love of Japanese/German/Korean cars might mean interest is a bit lower than the journalist you were speaking to thinks

bazz26

A new car is registered to the county of your home address irrespective of where you buy it.

Regarding getting a discount for getting the servicing done with them, very unlikely they will offer a further discount off the price of the car with the promise you get it serviced off them. For all they know you might change your mind afterwards and go somewhere else for servicing. Best thing I would do is try and negotiate on the servicing itself, for example the first service is free or half price as part of the overall deal etc.

digitaldr

Thanks for all the helpful replies - first new car so don't have much of a clue.

pilly

Would you get much for your own car used? Sometimes the scrappage deals can be a bit of a rip off because they give the same discount to a "straight" deal.

digitaldr

Car would be worth practically nothing - petrol, 2 litre and > 10 yrs old. I'll go for a straight deal first before mentioning anything about scrappage.

TanFlash

Scrappage is not the same as straight price on new. The manufacturer subsidies some of it and only if you have a scrapper you will get the full amount.

E.g. 4000 scrappage , 2500 discount for straight , 1500 comes from manufacturer

Price the car with Hugo Loonam in Offaly (he is a main Peugeot dealer). Gave a great price to a family member last year on a new car, a good bit better than other dealers and a nice fella too.

digitaldr

Thanks for the tip. Pricing should be available middle of this week.

eggy81

Boone Sharp Skier wrote: »

Price the car with Hugo Loonam in Offaly (he is a main Peugeot dealer). Gave a great price to a family member last year on a new car, a good bit better than other dealers and a nice fella too.

My family have bought several citreons from his garage and have nothing but praise for him so far.

MentalMario

I'm in the same situation.

Weighing up trying to put it through an NCT and getting another 12 months out of it or buying a new car.

It'll cost at least €400 to put it through the NCT so thinking now might be the time to upgrade. Hyundai are giving 5k scrappage on the i30 at the moment.

bazz26

€400 is small money to get a car through the NCT compared to borrowing a **** load of money for a new car and the first year's depreciation. I'm sure the likes of Hyundai will be offering similar deals for 172 and 181 registrations too.

pilly

My recommendation to anyone buying a new car is to wait 6 months and buy a demo model. Some have very little mileage at great prices.

digitaldr

Yeah considering the demo route too as they're often very well specced. Is there usually a lot of interest when it comes to purchase a demo - should I declare my interest now?

pilly

digitaldr wrote: »

Yeah considering the demo route too as they're often very well specced. Is there usually a lot of interest when it comes to purchase a demo - should I declare my interest now?

Definitely declare your interest because they can sell some pretty early on in the year.

digitaldr

Given that it's a new model I'd imagine the demand for demos would be pretty high

pilly

digitaldr wrote: »

Given that it's a new model I'd imagine the demand for demos would be pretty high

True too. Sometimes they won't register the big sellers either. Depends. Sometimes the dealer may want to drive it himself so you could be in luck.

walus

Are you sure you want to go from Honda to Peugeot?

AMKC

walus wrote: »

Are you sure you want to go from Honda to Peugeot?

Peugeot and Citroen have come a long way in the last 10years. The Peugeot 207 for instance was voted most reliable small car in Europe a few years ago.

The new 3008 is a stunning looking car both inside and out and has received lots of praise from the motoring press.

digitaldr

Initially it was a bit of a heart over head decision but as AMKC said French cars are now doing much better in reliability surveys. Also fell in love with the car when I saw it in the metal. It really stands out from the crowd of boring Qashqai clones. Granted the Toyota CHR is pretty distinctive looking too but I don't like the exterior and the interior isn't a patch on the 3008.

ShadowHearth

pilly wrote: »

My recommendation to anyone buying a new car is to wait 6 months and buy a demo model. Some have very little mileage at great prices.

Yes and no.

If it's run of the mill demo car, then when you add in loan Apr, it becomes same money or very close to brand new on 0% Apr. Right now these demo cars are not great deal unless you can buy without a loan or on stupidly low apr, which is very rare.
Where these demo models really shiny it's stuff like focus ST. Brand new is in 45K ish, but you can pick up a demo one for about 30k.

Is that new 3008 everyone talking about is cross over yolk? That's the only thing that coming up. Hate those things, would much prefer a normal 308.

AMKC

ShadowHearth wrote: »

Yes and no.

If it's run of the mill demo car, then when you add in loan Apr, it becomes same money or very close to brand new on 0% Apr. Right now these demo cars are not great deal unless you can buy without a loan or on stupidly low apr, which is very rare.
Where these demo models really shiny it's stuff like focus ST. Brand new is in 45K ish, but you can pick up a demo one for about 30k.

Is that new 3008 everyone talking about is cross over yolk? That's the only thing that coming up. Hate those things, would much prefer a normal 308.

The new 3008 is a cross over yes but if you seen one they do look really good. The last 3008 was an MPV the new one is not.

ShadowHearth

AMKC wrote: »

The new 3008 is a cross over yes but if you seen one they do look really good. The last 3008 was an MPV the new one is not.

No, 3008 after giggling a bit in high spec looks nice, but 95% of bog standard one on steelies in Ireland will be dreadful.

It's just personal thing about cross overs, I find them bastardised normal cars, which got their driving abilities gimped, due to just being out up higher. Body roll and stuff. Better not to go off topic on it, as it will spark a massive argument.
I though they actually made a nice looking 308. For some reason I just though 3008 is just a new branding for 308, turns out it's just how they mark cross over versions.

walus

AMKC wrote: »

Peugeot and Citroen have come a long way in the last 10years. The Peugeot 207 for instance was voted most reliable small car in Europe a few years ago.

The new 3008 is a stunning looking car both inside and out and has received lots of praise from the motoring press.

It is a matter of opinion. I was looking at 308 just recently and decided against as the interior looks and finish wise was miles away to what you get in its competitors from Japan or Germany.

digitaldr

The 3008 is a deliberate move upmarket by Peugeot and personally I thought it looks a lot nicer than the top spec Qashqai which still uses piano black for the dash which has to be just about the worst material for a car interior. As for bog standard ones on steelies - they're not bringing the base model into Ireland.

pilly

This is turning into a debate about the car. The OP has his decision made, he's simply looking at getting the right price.

digitaldr

Agreed - and I haven't helped! Anyway back on topic - I'm going to be in Letterkenny next weekend so will pop into the Peugeot dealers there - Mc Ginley motors. Does anyone have any experience of them? Also considering not going for PCP - would this mean better or worse discount? I'm thinking in the past might have got a better price but now I think a lot of dealerships are more interested in selling finance than cars!

pilly

digitaldr wrote: »

Agreed - and I haven't helped! Anyway back on topic - I'm going to be in Letterkenny next weekend so will pop into the Peugeot dealers there - Mc Ginley motors. Does anyone have any experience of them? Also considering not going for PCP - would this mean better or worse discount? I'm thinking in the past might have got a better price but now I think a lot of dealerships are more interested in selling finance than cars!

Yep, they make more money on the finance than on the car to be honest. You need to look at what costs you less overall I suppose. Get quotes for all different options. Don't let them pressure you into the finance, just ask them to give you a quote.

Zurbaran

digitaldr wrote: »

Agreed - and I haven't helped! Anyway back on topic - I'm going to be in Letterkenny next weekend so will pop into the Peugeot dealers there - Mc Ginley motors. Does anyone have any experience of them? Also considering not going for PCP - would this mean better or worse discount? I'm thinking in the past might have got a better price but now I think a lot of dealerships are more interested in selling finance than cars!

Dealt with them on a couple of occasions (Philip). Best thing to do would be to get a print out of the cheapest quote you have and see if he will beat it.

I got a decent deal out of there last year for my folks. Got 22k trade in value for a 2012 CX5. Admittedly I only got a small amount off the new car and metallic paint thrown in.