Garage build - Architect needed?????

Garvan

Hi all

We have a corner house with a modest garden and are considering building a garage with gates/roller shutter onto the road.

We're hoping to put in a 6mx4m garage with a pitched roof and a mezzanine for an office/storage space in it. It will be stand alone (not attached to the house)

As far as I know I need planning mostly due to the fact that the footpath outside will have its intended use changed.

But do I really need those expensive architect drawings?

Is there any online software to draw this myself?

Thanks

G

henryporter

Garvan wrote: »

Hi all

We have a corner house with a modest garden and are considering building a garage with gates/roller shutter onto the road.

We're hoping to put in a 6mx4m garage with a pitched roof and a mezzanine for an office/storage space in it. It will be stand alone (not attached to the house)

As far as I know I need planning mostly due to the fact that the footpath outside will have its intended use changed.

But do I really need those expensive architect drawings?

Is there any online software to draw this myself?

Thanks

G

Given your knowledge of what constitutes the need for planning you might be better off paying an expert to handle things rather than devaluing the price of your house. Reminds me of the Mr. Bean episode where he carried out dentistry on himself...

Garvan

Well Henry

I posted looking for a pointer in the right direction and not an effort at an insult.

But if trolling is your thing well then work away on another forum please.

I'm looking for intelligent ideas.

G

Metric Tensor

There is no legal requirement to have an architect or any professional either to apply for planning or supervise the build of your garage.

However, it is definitely worth having a professional on board because they (should) know the various ins and outs of the planning laws and to ensure the structure is built to a good standard.

There are a range of professionals who could help you with this OP - in terms of price architects would be close to if not the top and the specialist skills of an architect might not be best utilised on a domestic garage! Have a chat to a few local architectural technicians, engineers and architects and get quotes from each. I'd wager if you did the entire thing yourself you'd waste more money than the professional would charge because you'd miss deadlines, have invalid submissions, etc etc.

To answer your question re software. You don't even need any. It can all be done with a pen and paper if you know what you're doing.

Garvan

That's great advice.

Thanks for your help. It's definitely a starting point for me.....

G

Metric Tensor wrote: »

There is no legal requirement to have an architect or any professional either to apply for planning or supervise the build of your garage.

However, it is definitely worth having a professional on board because they (should) know the various ins and outs of the planning laws and to ensure the structure is built to a good standard.

There are a range of professionals who could help you with this OP - in terms of price architects would be close to if not the top and the specialist skills of an architect might not be best utilised on a domestic garage! Have a chat to a few local architectural technicians, engineers and architects and get quotes from each. I'd wager if you did the entire thing yourself you'd waste more money than the professional would charge because you'd miss deadlines, have invalid submissions, etc etc.

To answer your question re software. You don't even need any. It can all be done with a pen and paper if you know what you're doing.

Gumbo

Metric Tensor wrote: »

There is no legal requirement to have an architect or any professional either to apply for planning or supervise the build of your garage.

However, it is definitely worth having a professional on board because they (should) know the various ins and outs of the planning laws and to ensure the structure is built to a good standard.

There are a range of professionals who could help you with this OP - in terms of price architects would be close to if not the top and the specialist skills of an architect might not be best utilised on a domestic garage! Have a chat to a few local architectural technicians, engineers and architects and get quotes from each. I'd wager if you did the entire thing yourself you'd waste more money than the professional would charge because you'd miss deadlines, have invalid submissions, etc etc.

To answer your question re software. You don't even need any. It can all be done with a pen and paper if you know what you're doing.

+1

Pen and paper but don't forget 6 copies of each drawing, and each copy had to be to scale. The drawings themselves have to comply with DoE standards.

Most people that try it themselves spend more as the don't get the drawings correct, don't outline site correctly, mis-match wordings on public notices etc

Where are you based?
Also, it sounds like you want to build a garage and enter/exit through a street with no current vehicle entrance?

Garvan

Thanks

I'll defo get a professional to draw up something. Even from a scale point of view it makes sense. I'm south Dublin and yes, the wall will become gates onto the road that goes up the cul de sac at the side of my house.

kceire wrote: »

+1

Pen and paper but don't forget 6 copies of each drawing, and each copy had to be to scale. The drawings themselves have to comply with DoE standards.

Most people that try it themselves spend more as the don't get the drawings correct, don't outline site correctly, mis-match wordings on public notices etc

Where are you based?
Also, it sounds like you want to build a garage and enter/exit through a street with no current vehicle entrance?

BryanF

henryporter wrote: »

Given your knowledge of what constitutes the need for planning you might be better off paying an expert to handle things rather than devaluing the price of your house. Reminds me of the Mr. Bean episode where he carried out dentistry on himself...

Garvan wrote: »

Hi all

We have a corner house with a modest garden and are considering building a garage with gates/roller shutter onto the road.

We're hoping to put in a 6mx4m garage with a pitched roof and a mezzanine for an office/storage space in it. It will be stand alone (not attached to the house)

As far as I know I need planning mostly due to the fact that the footpath outside will have its intended use changed.

But do I really need those expensive architect drawings?

Is there any online software to draw this myself?

Thanks

G

Garvan wrote: »

Well Henry

I posted looking for a pointer in the right direction and not an effort at an insult.

But if trolling is your thing well then work away on another forum please.

I'm looking for intelligent ideas.

G

So you are building 24m2 garage

But with an unknown m2 mezzo that's not attached to the house.

expect to pay for an arch / arch tech to apply for panning permission. I doubt you'll get it without talking to the planners first, preferably with your chosen professional .

Gumbo

BryanF wrote: »

So you are building 24m2 garage

But with an unknown m2 mezzo that's not attached to the house.

expect to pay for an arch / arch tech to apply for panning permission. I doubt you'll get it without talking to the planners first, preferably with your chosen professional .

Deffo, hence my question about creating a new entrance.
I'd lodge a pre planning to confirm if allowable in theory.

kirving

When you actually get to the drawing bit (if you were to do it yourself) , it can very easily turn into a mess.

Leaving cert technical drawing level would be a minimum standard you'd be looking at in terms of drawing alone neatness and method wise, nevermind the actual regulations.

An architect might be overkill, but certainly engage a professional such as an arch. tech. or engineer for advice.

Garvan

Thanks all

I'm led to believe that architects fees are quite high these days and given that it's just a garage i'm building its good to know that once I get a decent & accurate set of drawing from someone that it doesnt have to double the cost of the build!!

Cheers

G

Gumbo

Garvan wrote: »

Thanks all

I'm led to believe that architects fees are quite high these days and given that it's just a garage i'm building its good to know that once I get a decent & accurate set of drawing from someone that it doesnt have to double the cost of the build!!

Cheers

G

Where are you based?
location can have an impact on prices etc

You could use an Architect, Engineer, Surveyor or Technician/Draughtmans to do the work for you.

Nickypicky

Looking for estimates for a garage 270 sq. ft. approx.