Deer hit my car!

southie_anseo

Hi Folks,

Looking for advice, was driving to work this morning when the van traveling in front of me hit and killed a deer, the deer went flying through the air and hit my car. Luckily its only damage to the car could have been worse but now my car is pretty much wrecked, what can i do? can i do anything?

colm_mcm

southie_anseo wrote: »

Hi Folks,

Looking for advice, was driving to work this morning when the van traveling in front of me hit and killed a deer, the deer went flying through the air and hit my car. Luckily its only damage to the car could have been worse but now my car is pretty much wrecked, what can i do? can i do anything?

Do you have the reg of the van?

fancy pigeon

Where did the deer come from?

That's a very unfortunate situation. Oh deer...

Cabaal

Not sure what you can do, not like you can claim insurance of the deer and really the other motorist isn't really liable for a wild animal hitting their car first

Boardnashea

Casseroles and burgers spring to mind but that's probably not the sort of advice you're looking for. I've no idea on the liabilites unless the animal was off a farm - and I mean a deer farm, not a cabbage farm!

bazz26

I'm not sure what you can do other than claim off your own insurance presuming you have a full comprehensive policy. Open to correction but that's how I'd see anyway.

Riva10

If you have comprehensive insurance you can claim from your insurers otherwise the case can be made that you should have been driving at a speed and distance from the vehicle in front of you that you could stop. Just my opinion. Do not shoot the messenger.

JJJJNR

Lucky escape, is the car a complete wreck ? Deers are in season at the moment, so are way more active. If you have full comp you might be covered..

simonw

Riva10 wrote: »

If you have comprehensive insurance you can claim from your insurers otherwise the case can be made that you should have been driving at a speed and distance from the vehicle in front of you that you could stop. Just my opinion. Do not shoot the messenger.

He didn't hit the van, an airborne deer hit him

Gael23

You will have to claim off your own insurance. Unfortunate case of being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

beertons

Was there a big round lad with a red jacket driving the reindeer? Bit early in the year I'd think.

Atlantic Dawn

Any idea who owns the deer? If they were say owned by a local hunt or farmer then it would be the same as if it was a cow from a farm you hit and you could sue the owner. This might help you...

http://www.bporco.ie/live/newstalk/393.html

godtabh

Any chance this was on the M50 yesterday?

I was heading northbound after coming on at Sandyford and saw a few deer in the verge. Some one beeped up ahead and spooked a deer. Crashed into the crash barrier and didn't see after that.

Could easily have caused a major crash if it got on the M50

emeldc

Riva10 wrote: »

If you have comprehensive insurance you can claim from your insurers otherwise the case can be made that you should have been driving at a speed and distance from the vehicle in front of you that you could stop. Just my opinion. Do not shoot the messenger.

You deserve to be shot and hung up by your toenails for not reading the post properly

Isambard

I think you are misunderstanding the guy. It is still the case that you should leave room to stop in an emergency, I don't think he was suggesting the van had been hit.

Riva10

Isambard wrote: »

I think you are misunderstanding the guy. It is still the case that you should leave room to stop in an emergency, I don't think he was suggesting the van had been hit.

Well said Isambard. But we should make allowances for those less intelligent and with poor understanding. :rolleyes:

grogi

Cabaal wrote: »

Not sure what you can do, not like you can claim insurance of the deer and really the other motorist isn't really liable for a wild animal hitting their car first

In less civilised countries you would claim from insurance of national hunters association, wild life trust or similar body...

Or even from the management company of the road this happened.

Armchair Andy

Riva10 wrote:

Well said Isambard. But we should make allowances for those less intelligent and with poor understanding.

God forbid anything untoward should ever happen to you like what happened to OP with that attitude.

emeldc

Isambard wrote: »

I think you are misunderstanding the guy. It is still the case that you should leave room to stop in an emergency, I don't think he was suggesting the van had been hit.

Fair enough, so how much room do you suggest should be left in order to avoid a flying deer.

Riva10

emeldc wrote: »

Fair enough, so how much room do you suggest should be left in order to avoid a flying deer.

I take it that you are aware of the 2 second rule.

artanevilla

Riva10 wrote: »

I take it that you are aware of the 2 second rule.

The deer wasn't stationary, nor moving away from him, it was moving towards him, so the rule is redundant.

Armchair Andy

Riva10 wrote:

I take it that you are aware of the 2 second rule.

So now we're into the physics of how long a deer can fly.

The deer could have been blown over the centre barrier or jumped out from a ditch. Op was unlucky wrong place wrong time.

Riva10

artanevilla wrote: »

The deer wasn't stationary, nor moving away from him, it was moving towards him, so the rule is redundant.

You saw the incident then? Did you help or just drove on.?

emeldc

Riva10 wrote: »

I take it that you are aware of the 2 second rule.

So give me an example of how I would leave a 2 second gap between me and the deer.

Riva10

emeldc wrote: »

So give me an example of how I would leave a 2 second gap between me and the deer.

As the van in front of the op hit the deer your argument is redundant. If the deer had jumped in front of the op he would not have been able to avoid it. He said that the van hit the deer and the laws of physics did the rest. I suppose you are familiar with Einsteins Laws of Physics. If you are not it may be worth enlightening yourself and you will better understand what happened and maybe, just maybe understand why the 2 second rule would have helped the op. Pity you have not put as much effort into answering the op as you are trolling. :rolleyes:

Edups2.0

LIGHTNING wrote: »

lol what? What has the 2 second rule got to do with this? The two second rule of picking the deer meat off the road and it will be safe to eat :pac:

I think he was picking it off his car tbf


op in this kind of situation I believe it's commonplace that you get half each. But as the van driver was the one who made the attack he gets first pick.

Graham

Riva10 wrote: »

As the van in front of the op hit the deer your argument is redundant. If the deer had jumped in front of the op he would not have been able to avoid it.

How do you leave 2 seconds between yourself and something you can't see until it jumps out (or in this case falls back to earth). :rolleyes:

artanevilla

Riva10 wrote: »

You saw the incident then? Did you help or just drove on.?

Did you see the incident?

emeldc

Riva10 wrote: »

As the van in front of the op hit the deer your argument is redundant. If the deer had jumped in front of the op he would not have been able to avoid it. He said that the van hit the deer and the laws of physics did the rest. I suppose you are familiar with Einsteins Laws of Physics. If you are not it may be worth enlightening yourself and you will better understand what happened and maybe, just maybe understand why the 2 second rule would have helped the op. Pity you have not put as much effort into answering the op as you are trolling. :rolleyes:

WTF, just WTF. LOL LOL

nice_guy80

Venison steak is lovely

BorneTobyWilde

Maybe van ahead did not hit it, maybe it was a low flying reindeer

artanevilla

LIGHTNING wrote: »

I fail to see how Einsteins Theory of General Relativity applies to a deer being hit by a car.

Well it kind of does, but not how Riva10 understands it (poor understanding you might say).

Someone more intelligent woud see it like this:

Relatively speaking, the car and van are both stationary with respect to each other, if the van starts braking, then this changes, (for example if they are both travelling at 100km/ph, van slows to 0km/ph under emergency breaking, with a two second gap to anticipate this, the car also slows to 0km/ph without hitting the van.

Now, imagine a deer is crossing the road in front of the van, the van hits the deer, the van stops to 0km/ph under emergency breaking, again the car has left 2 seconds between and can anticipate and stop. Fine no problem. HOWEVER, the deer has been accelerated towards the car by the van, reducing the anticipated stopping time to beyond the two second rules, as relatively speaking, the deer is moving towards the car at 60km/ph (figure pulled out me arse, but you get the point).

So now, how does the two second rule apply when something is fired towards your car at speed?

(Also I'd be more inclined to say this is covered by Newton's Laws, not Einstein's)

MarkR

Would you not be able to claim off the van, akin to when a truck's wheels fire up a stone and crack your windscreen? Contact your insurance company and request advice.

Anjobe

artanevilla wrote: »

Also I'd be more inclined to say this is covered by Newton's Laws, not Einstein's

Newton's laws of motion would certainly cover this. Relativistic effects generally only become apparent for objects with extremely large mass, or those travelling with extremely high velocity. Neither of these apply here, unless it was a rented white diesel Astramax van of course!

KingBrian2

You should contact the Gardaí or someone their is a rotten deer carcass on the road somewhere in need of being removed.

ohnonotgmail

Anjobe wrote: »

Newton's laws of motion would certainly cover this. Relativistic effects generally only become apparent for objects with extremely large mass, or those travelling with extremely high velocity. Neither of these apply here, unless it was a rented white diesel Astramax van of course!

maybe it was a REALLY big deer.

Isambard

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Maybe van ahead did not hit it, maybe it was a low flying reindeer

If a deer falls in the forest?