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Early 1800 farm house

  • 17-11-2016 10:58am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7


    Hey folks, just thought I'd come on here to I suppose document, help if I can and also ask for help as in regards doing up what will be my partner,myself and my daughters home hopefully living in it this time next year. I've been doing all the work myself, just evenings and weekends, when we got the keys, I had to gut the place out from top to bottom, as regards furniture, inch lats an plaster off the first floor ceiling, remove studding up stairs and taken down the chimney to the ground, including the wall it was built in, joisting the whole lot came out, then I dug out the floor, put down radon and insulation, plumbing pipes, poured the the floor and rebuilt the wall and back to back fire place and chimney is up to jut under the rafter, will be a reclaimed brick for the finish or something similar. My Windows where wooden sash, single glazed obviously, I have my windows ordered off Munster, triple, upvc, I'm ready to start studding out my external walls now, they, like most houses built then are 500mm thick, I was intending on building my stud up on the ground, with 3 by 2's and putting 8mm ply on the back of it between my stud and existing wall, and form a cavity of about 25 to 30mm, fill with 80mm rigid insulation and then a 50mm insulated slab, then my windows will have trickle vents and I will be putting atleast six vents in the roof, fix up the slates patch up the lime render on the under side of them and spray foam between the rafters, just wondering if that would combat condensation or should I do more. Thanks. Andrew


Comments

  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 10,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭BryanF


    You should be doing a lot more to avoid mould, rot, leading to health issues

    Your using non-breathable materials in an 1800 house.

    I don't really no where to start.

    Are getting any advice on the specification?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7 Andrewcampbell


    Because I'm setting up a stud wall on the exterior walls it's effectively a house within a house, no old walls will be inside the stud work, would this not help combat mould and the likes? Andrew


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7 Andrewcampbell


    And also I will be treating timber, and as regards mould, and even moisture there is not a bit in it, I know it's hard to believe but there is no dampness in the house whatsoever, Andrew


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 10,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭BryanF


    You need a vapour barrier taped and sealed on the inside. Is the wall lime plastered inside and out?

    I recommend a breathable construction.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7 Andrewcampbell


    I forgot to state that I will be putting a vapour barrier, and yes, it's lime plastered inside and out


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  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 10,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭BryanF


    I would Avoid ply and foam/ rigid insulation


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,058 ✭✭✭onrail


    BryanF wrote: »
    Are getting any advice on the specification?

    Looking at doning something similar down my way. Any idea of a suitable professional for such a job? Have already posted in the sticky thread. Cheers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7 Andrewcampbell


    So would you suggest spray foaming it all, as in stud work?


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 10,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭BryanF


    So would you suggest spray foaming it all, as in stud work?

    No

    I'd probavly go with external insulation

    Or hemplime


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 509 ✭✭✭wayoutwest


    Is'nt the standard external insulation non-breathable ?-if so, then like fitting plastic and PIR internally- the walls won't be able to shed any rising damp.
    This looks like an interesting way of constructing breathable external insulation from U.K lime company
    images-3.jpeg


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7 Andrewcampbell


    Before I put in my floor, I took out the first row of stone and put a block on flat and dpc in to stop rising damp, if the house is well insulated, ventilated and heated there should be no problems arising, should there? A lad that works along side me, he knows of a house renovated in Connemara, the same, an old stone house, he said the contractor put polythene on the walls and then fixed a slab, would the polythene not cause the walls to sweat


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 10,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭BryanF


    wayoutwest wrote: »
    Is'nt the standard external insulation non-breathable ?-if so, then like fitting plastic and PIR internally- the walls won't be able to shed any rising damp.
    This looks like an interesting way of constructing breathable external insulation from U.K lime company
    images-3.jpeg

    There are breathable Ewi systems suitable for old stone walls

    Internal insulation is not continuous your left with weak points at all internal wall/ceiling/floor junctions


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 10,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭BryanF


    an old stone house, he said the contractor put polythene on the walls and then fixed a slab, would the polythene not cause the walls to sweat
    Think due point (interstitial condensation)

    I would not recommend this approach.


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