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Fake or not?

  • 15-11-2016 11:56am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 187 ✭✭


    http://www.adverts.ie/vintage/brand-new/11736811
    So I came across this on adverts and as I've always liked the IWC spitfire had some interest in it. I see a pretty low offer has just been accepted on this so I won't be asking any questions. Is this either a bargain or fake? Pictures are not great, the receipt is from Hong Kong which is fine but 168,000 HKD is approx 20,000 euro and last time I was looking at a spitfire it was around 8,000 USD, box doesn't look right. I would hate to see someone get stung if it is a fake.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 546 ✭✭✭gerfmurphy


    Never seen an authorised dealer invoice for a watch described as mechanical with no serial number model number etc. before.
    No picture of the back or detailed pic of the front I wouldnt be parting with any money without alot more info


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,470 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    golfpaul wrote: »
    http://www.adverts.ie/vintage/brand-new/11736811
    So I came across this on adverts and as I've always liked the IWC spitfire had some interest in it. I see a pretty low offer has just been accepted on this so I won't be asking any questions. Is this either a bargain or fake? Pictures are not great, the receipt is from Hong Kong which is fine but 168,000 HKD is approx 20,000 euro and last time I was looking at a spitfire it was around 8,000 USD, box doesn't look right. I would hate to see someone get stung if it is a fake.

    Spitfire retails at 11.9k on strap and 12.9k on bracelet in Euro

    that one is 99.9999999% a fake, i could be wrong, but the box is wrong, the receipt looks fishy and the dial colour looks off.

    i happen to own a genuine one by the way

    if its not fake why would someone sell it for 3k when you could sell it directly to a deal for nearly double that, makes no sense at all


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,370 ✭✭✭Homer


    I reckon I could have done a better job on the stitching on the box myself :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭Winterlong


    God love the poor fella forking out €3k for that. I hope that 'subject to inspection' will be with a dealer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,908 ✭✭✭Alkers


    He's only accepted the 3k offer for the sake of PM.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,470 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    Simona1986 wrote: »
    He's only accepted the 3k offer for the sake of PM.

    his words were im taking your offer if still interested, the offer was 3k, he accepted it, and he is trying to rip someone off


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,753 ✭✭✭Bluefoam


    11k??? I could have picked one up for less than 3.5k in duty free last Christmas... Chose the Aquatimer instead...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,470 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    Bluefoam wrote: »
    11k??? I could have picked one up for less than 3.5k in duty free last Christmas... Chose the Aquatimer instead...

    no you couldnt, i think you are mixing models up


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,753 ✭✭✭Bluefoam


    Is there another model with two pushers adjacent the crown?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,753 ✭✭✭Bluefoam


    My bad, must have been the chronograph

    http://www.iwc.com/en/collection/pilots/IW3777-2016


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,370 ✭✭✭Homer


    In fairness Pat (who made the offer) regularly reports fakes on adverts and will do due diligence I'm sure before he parts with 3k


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,470 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    Bluefoam wrote: »
    My bad, must have been the chronograph

    http://www.iwc.com/en/collection/pilots/IW3777-2016

    yep thats the flieger chrono, 3k for that was a decent deal as well

    the spitfire has an in house movement and they have put a dial in that they normally reserve for white gold watches and then decided to whack a massive premium on top.

    is it a nice watch - hell yeah
    is it worth its RRP - is it hell :D

    then they also released this at half the price :mad: although it doesnt hang together nearly as well imo

    http://www.iwc.com/en/collection/pilots/IW377719/

    the 'proper' spitfire, the IW3878 is now discontinued it seems

    http://www.iwc.com/forum/en/discussion/62433/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,753 ✭✭✭Bluefoam


    If I had the resources, it'd be a big pilot next for me...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,470 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    Bluefoam wrote: »
    If I had the resources, it'd be a big pilot next for me...

    id like one, but maybe a little big IMO,

    the 3878 i have is 43mm and 16.5mm thick which is just about big enough


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 673 ✭✭✭CarltonBrowne


    Cyrus wrote: »
    id like one, but maybe a little big IMO,

    I think you're right - I tried one on at Schaffhausen and, whilst admittedly I was wearing a 34mm Rolex Oyster at the time, it was ludicrously big. I also remember being in a shop in Jermyn St (an outfitters) a few years ago with a mate and watching this guy spend about 15 minutes trying to make the one he had just bought sit comfortably on his wrist - he looked like a schoolboy on his first day trying to cope with a blazer that was three sizes too big.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,518 ✭✭✭✭dudara


    There are smaller pilots out now. I tried one on at a watch show in the Netherlands which was about the same dimensions as my Speedmaster. Very nice too, am giving it some thought.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    I prefer the smaller ones TBH. There I said it :D

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭Winterlong


    Watch in the OP was withdrawn from sale. A poster politely suggest that the seller have the watch checked out. I had tried to contact the prospective buyer but no luck.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,470 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    Winterlong wrote: »
    Watch in the OP was withdrawn from sale. A poster politely suggest that the seller have the watch checked out. I had tried to contact the prospective buyer but no luck.

    i exchanged messages with him before this thread popped up so he was going in with his eyes open :p


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