New front loader

Nick64

Hi all,
Looking at putting a new front loader on a 390T from a cheaper make like rossmore etc. Anyone get any quotes recently from them or other brands? Spec would be basic no self levelling etc. Thanks.

Who2

Nick64 wrote: »

Hi all,
Looking at putting a new front loader on a 390T from a cheaper make like rossmore etc. Anyone get any quotes recently from them or other brands? Spec would be basic no self levelling etc. Thanks.

Looked at a few everything from 5500 for a polish made one to 11000 I was quoted. You have to ask yourself the question is it worth spending that money on that sort of tractor. I've a 300 series tractor here too and I just can't justify it.

Mooooo

Who2 wrote: »

Looked at a few everything from 5500 for a polish made one to 11000 I was quoted. You have to ask yourself the question is it worth spending that money on that sort of tractor. I've a 300 series tractor here too and I just can't justify it.

11k? You'd nearly find a machine with a loader for that

Nick64

Who2 wrote: »

Looked at a few everything from 5500 for a polish made one to 11000 I was quoted. You have to ask yourself the question is it worth spending that money on that sort of tractor. I've a 300 series tractor here too and I just can't justify it.

True but ive looked at second hand tractors with loaders for a while now and not found anything decent that isnt big money. Also checked out second hand loaders, 5 to 6 k for second hand quickie. Thought it would make more sense to get a new cheaper loader and keep my 390 as its very clean but i do take your point.

White Clover

You'd pick up the likes of a jcb 2cx in good order for around 10k. Imo loaders nowadays are too heavy for most 4 cylinder tractors from the 90's.

Attie

https://www.donedeal.co.uk/plantmachinery-for-sale/matbro-teleporter/13812503

Nick one of these are very useful around a place.
Attie

Keepgrowing

Mooooo wrote: »

11k? You'd nearly find a machine with a loader for that

Priced a loader for our tractor. Massey loader with forward/reverse switch on joystick €11k. Hiring a JCB 310 with bale grab/plastic catcher for €15/HR that we put on clock

jimmy G M

Is your tractor 4wd? Will you be feeding / stacking bales with it? How many bales will you be handling in a year?

I'd generally agree with a previous poster who said it's hardly worth putting a new loader on a 20 - 25 yr old tractor.

You should be able to pick up a good second hand loader - Quicke or similar brackets €500, boom €2000 - €2500, joystick etc fitted for €3 - €3.5k with a bit of patience & looking around. Soft ride and self leveling are well worth the 300-500 extra IMO.

Here's a few for example
https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/quicke-320-loader-to-suit-a-mf/13704035

https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/quicke-320-loader-to-suit-a-mf/13704035

https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/quicke-340-loader-fits-ford-new-holland-7840/13685489


There's a chap up in Kildare who advertises in the FJ regularly has plenty of brackets & loaders for sale.

Mooooo

Keepgrowing wrote: »

Priced a loader for our tractor. Massey loader with forward/reverse switch on joystick €11k. Hiring a JCB 310 with bale grab/plastic catcher for €15/HR that we put on clock

From a garage or a contractor/ farmer.? Good option alright. If enough space to work with that attachment you'd have a lot of bales out in an hour I'd say

Nick64

Yea 4wd. Bales and pit here.

jimmy G M

Nick64 wrote: »

Yea 4wd. Bales and pit here.

Look I suppose you should do what ever you think is right for you. We got a second hand MF loader (Quicke 340 painted red) joystick brackets and soft drive fitted for 3.5K 4 yrs ago, and no bother handling bales & sheargrab etc.

Another option might be to get secondhand brackets & joystick fitted fitted, then buy a new boom to suit - Rossmore will do this - I priced this option with them a few years ago and thought it was reasonable - cant remember the figures now. This means that if / when you sell on the 390t in a few years, you can keep the boom and put on next tractor you buy.

Here's another curve ball option - you'll get a good price for the 390T. Let it off and put the price of a new loader with it and see what you can buy a bit newer with a loader , power shuttle, better cab, etc etc.

Nick64

jimmy G M wrote: »

Look I suppose you should do what ever you think is right for you. We got a second hand MF loader (Quicke 340 painted red) joystick brackets and soft drive fitted for 3.5K 4 yrs ago, and no bother handling bales & sheargrab etc.

Another option might be to get secondhand brackets & joystick fitted fitted, then buy a new boom to suit - Rossmore will do this - I priced this option with them a few years ago and thought it was reasonable - cant remember the figures now. This means that if / when you sell on the 390t in a few years, you can keep the boom and put on next tractor you buy.

Here's another curve ball option - you'll get a good price for the 390T. Let it off and put the price of a new loader with it and see what you can buy a bit newer with a loader , power shuttle, better cab, etc etc.

Been looking hard, anything under 35k is rough as hell and higher hours than mine!

jimmy G M

Nick64 wrote: »

Been looking hard, anything under 35k is rough as hell and higher hours than mine!

Really, what you looking at ? How many hours / year are you putting up?

Remember hours on a 390T go up @ 1800 rpm or something like that, so you can increase the hours on your MF by at least 1/3 to get comparative hours to a more modern machine.

Nick64

jimmy G M wrote: »

Really, what you looking at ? How many hours / year are you putting up?

Remember hours on a 390T go up @ 1800 rpm or something like that, so you can increase the hours on your MF by at least 1/3 to get comparative hours to a more modern machine.

About 600 per year. Looking at things like 6310/20 as i dont rate the newer masseys, dealers ive been to are very expensive and some of the tractors havent even been washed since they were traded let alone checked over. Be reluctant now to get rid of the 390 as its very clean and had an engine overhaul last year to end up with a newer yoke in worse condition mechanically.

jimmy G M

Nick64 wrote: »

About 600 per year. Looking at things like 6310/20 as i dont rate the newer masseys, dealers ive been to are very expensive and some of the tractors havent even been washed since they were traded let alone checked over. Be reluctant now to get rid of the 390 as its very clean and had an engine overhaul last year to end up with a newer yoke in worse condition mechanically.

Fair enough, you know your own machine. How many hours were on it when you did the engine? We have a 390T here with 7k hours still going strong. Had a new clutch circa 6k hours tho. Apart from that no issues.

Nick64

jimmy G M wrote: »

Fair enough, you know your own machine. How many hours were on it when you did the engine? We have a 390T here with 7k hours still going strong. Had a new clutch circa 6k hours tho. Apart from that no issues.

About the same, rings worn so just did it all when we were at it.

Mf310

Bought a 1 year old MX loader from a dealer in Kildare last year for our 5445 boom was from him and joystick and brakets came new from france all together cost €6500

Panch18

Keepgrowing wrote: »

Mooooo wrote: »

11k? You'd nearly find a machine with a loader for that

Priced a loader for our tractor. Massey loader with forward/reverse switch on joystick 11k. Hiring a JCB 310 with bale grab/plastic catcher for 15/HR that we put on clock

Seems like great value, which dealer is doing this?

Changing the loader tractor next year, so this might be an option for us

Keepgrowing

Panch18 wrote: »

Seems like great value, which dealer is doing this?

Changing the loader tractor next year, so this might be an option for us

Contractor is doing it.

visatorro

Keepgrowing wrote: »

Priced a loader for our tractor. Massey loader with forward/reverse switch on joystick €11k. Hiring a JCB 310 with bale grab/plastic catcher for €15/HR that we put on clock

At first glance seems value. Say two hours a day for 100 days, is 3000. Could easily add another 1000 to that. Long term I'm not sure if payments on a machine would seem like a better option. Looked into hiring here before, 600 a week regardless of hours on the clock . Alright for a week but for the full winter was a non runner.

Muckit

Keepgrowing wrote: »

Contractor is doing it.

Do u have to be with him or is he feeding cattle for €15/hr? That's unreal.

visatorro

Keepgrowing wrote: »

Contractor is doing it.

Didn't see this post. Mucket is right that's value if he's doing it

paddyte20

Hi Nick64

I was in the exact same predicament as you for a long while. I had a 1995 mint McCormick cx 105 and a mint 1995 8894 fiat. I wanted to upgrade the fiat as the tanco loader on it was pretty useless and struggled to lift bales. Its impossible to get a decent second hand tractor. I even went to England and there are very good deals but the sterling was killing the price (last January). Everything I looked at was rougher than my tractors.

Anyway in the end I traded in the McCormick and bought a new Case Maxxum 110 with a new Quicke Q48 loader with electric joystick. Absolutely fantastic loader.

Now here's where my advice comes in. I went looking for a loader for the fiat as it only feeds in the slatted unit and decided to get a second hand loader. Alot more scrap with ridiculous prices. In the end I went to Barry Fenton in Monasterevin Machinery and he took my old loader and FITTED a new trima x21 loader for 4500. He collected the tractor in kk and brought it back. All new joystick electrics hoses etc. Its a no brainer and if your tractor is as good as you say like mine was a new loader only increases the value of it. If you want to change the tractor down the line you will still have a great loader to put on the next tractor if you want. Also going back to the case maxxum and quicke loader; the trima loader is made in the quicke factory and even stamped by alo with the same bushings etc as the quicke loader.I can lift any bale now ticking over.

If you buy a good loader and look after it you will always have a good loader but if you buy scrap you will always have scrap and forever regret it.

Barry had a Quicke q 350 I think on a Massey there. Straight tight loader ok but it is 1995 and was 4k.

One other point to note; I was talking to a dealer only a couple of days ago when he was servicing my tractor and he said they had a lad who never greased a quicke loader like mine. It was fairly new but the bushings were worn bady. When they priced the pins and bushings it was as cheap to buy a new loader!!!!!!!

Keepgrowing

Muckit wrote: »

Do u have to be with him or is he feeding cattle for €15/hr? That's unreal.

We've an outfarm and in order to avoid racing around feeding with our 310 we are hiring one of his. He is fitting it with a Tanco bale grab. The charge is €15/HR for every hour we put on the machine

Waffletraktor

Keepgrowing wrote: »

We've an outfarm and in order to avoid racing around feeding with our 310 we are hiring one of his. He is fitting it with a Tanco bale grab. The charge is €15/HR for every hour we put on the machine

Be carefull doing a longterm hire from a contractor, anything that goes wrong in the next 500 hrs is automatically your fault . Will be a bit iffy sorting out fuel and stuff in spring when he starts taking it to nip over and do a few jobs with it elsewhere etc etc.
Havent had the same t-shirt, just the jumper :pac:.

PVF

Hi does anyone have the details of a decent litigation property solicitor in the munster area please.

Mf310

That was a serious upgrade was actually looking at that model only a couple of weeks back fair built machine by the looks of it nice price tag too tho