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Skilled body repair - big stuff.

  • 08-11-2016 9:29am
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    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 17,858 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    Saw this guys channel on youtube last night. I assumed that these types of repairs weren't possible.

    What do you think of his workmanship and quality?

    Would a repaired vehicle be as strong and safe as a fresh one?



Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 367 ✭✭sneakyST


    Nice finish but I wouldn't drive it around. Once the car frame has been damaged the character of the metal has changed meaning unpredictable behaviour if it had another crash. Potentially a death trap.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 17,858 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III


    Another amazing repair.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,520 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    His skills are superb, but cutting squares out of chassis legs etc would not be acceptable round here.

    Interesting how the cost of labour vs the cost of parts means a lot of parts are repaired, as opposed to here where heaps of parts are thrown at things. Different litigation culture too I assume.

    I've been watching Arthur's videos for ages now. Some are pretty shonky repairs, I wouldn't like to think what would happen in the next crash. Some repairs seem very well done too.


  • Posts: 17,728 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Really hard to know how an accident and subsequent repair using a porta power will effect the strength of the metal, very much case by case and so impossible to know really.

    As much as we'd like to think otherwise there are cars being put back on the road in Ireland that strictly speaking should have been scrapped. Even ones that don't require welding or new structural pieces.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,866 ✭✭✭fancy pigeon


    His one on the 3 series roof repair is impressive, but at the back of my mind I'd always be thinking of the integrity of the pillars after the roof has caved in


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,028 ✭✭✭H3llR4iser


    On the other hand, I am often amazed about how easily repairable vehicles get scrapped here; Repairs like the ones in the clips are not uncommon at all in Europe, especially in places like Italy or Poland (unless the car was a heap of scrap to begin with!).

    Of course they need to be done up to an excellent standard, which sometimes it isn't the case (driving through Italy you'd often see the odd "crabbing" car, clear sign of a botched chassis repair).

    Car chassis/frames are welded in the factory in any case, I haven't got knowledge of many cars having a "cast steel frame" where it's one block of metal. A properly, industrial grade made fresh weld might in some cases be stronger/more reliable than the same weld made 8 years ago in the factory, which has gone through thousands of KM of metal fatigue...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,866 ✭✭✭fancy pigeon


    Stronger weld on a weakened/weaker chassis will alter how the cabin deforms in a crash than designed


  • Posts: 17,728 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    H3llR4iser wrote: »
    .... I haven't got knowledge of many cars having a "cast steel frame" where it's one block of metal. ..............

    Conceptually that would be difficult, the initial wax injection step into the mould would be more or less impossible even with multiple injection points.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,076 ✭✭✭GustavoFring


    His one on the 3 series roof repair is impressive, but at the back of my mind I'd always be thinking of the integrity of the pillars after the roof has caved in

    If I remember that was a navy one? I dunno about that one...windscreen was out of kilter along the top at the end.

    I love that guys videos...would never buy a car yes been near mind.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭padyjoe


    Excellent skills. I think the repair parts are for 'free' just to make the process more via-/profitable.
    Would you work standing on a scaffolding knowing it took a blow to its frames?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84,761 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
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    The airbag damage on the Porsche presuming they went off must be in the €5-€10k region to put right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,473 ✭✭✭robtri


    nice work...
    that type of push pull repair is quite common and in use quite extensively around body shops..
    the rail work i can see been done ... but the smaller parts, easier less intensive to remove and replace with new parts....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,129 ✭✭✭kirving


    H3llR4iser wrote: »
    A properly, industrial grade made fresh weld might in some cases be stronger/more reliable than the same weld made 8 years ago in the factory, which has gone through thousands of KM of metal fatigue...

    Agreed, but this is definitely more Art than Engineering. The chassis frame will also be designed to deform in a specific way, so making it super strong isn't necessarily the best option either.

    For example, a Tesla Model S is extremely rigid in order to protect the lithium batteries in a side impact test, a Volvo S60 clearly deforms much more in the test comparison, but the passengers fare better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56 ✭✭dzwx


    https://www.youtube.com/user/tussik01?feature=autonav

    thats his channel, loads of repairs


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